MELLONcholly

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an actual question that *may* come off as inflammatory about Stalin. in c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
[–] MELLONcholly@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks! I'll look into that. I apologize for using BBC as a source. As a recovering liberal, it was one of the few news sources I had access to that wasn't Fox News and I'm finding it hard to find better sources in the US. I'm finding Ground News is helpful, but even that app doesn't really include any communist sources, just a bunch of US news sources

an actual question that *may* come off as inflammatory about Stalin. in c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
[–] MELLONcholly@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why I posted this question! I had no idea my sources were basically sponsored by the CIA. I appreciate the book recommendations. I realize that 50's Cuba and WW2 USSR are fundamentally different due to almost every aspect from time to culture, I was just confused as to why it seemed like Stalin is exalted while nobody mentions Fidel when (due to bad and/or misinformed information) Stalin seemed like a more brutal....dictator? Is that the right word? I'll definitely read those books, thanks again

an actual question that *may* come off as inflammatory about Stalin. in c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
[–] MELLONcholly@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is a link to a BBC article about potential election tampering in Russia. There is a video of people stuffing ballot boxes with papers, but I ran out of time to find it. Can you explain and maybe share a source on the coup and following civil war in Ukraine?

an actual question that *may* come off as inflammatory about Stalin. in c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
[–] MELLONcholly@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I now know those numbers were wrong. Like most other internet historians, I used Wikipedia and didn't have time to double check those numbers as I was in the bathroom at work (always poop on the clock ;) ). That's on me. Even Wikipedia has largely differing numbers on that matter. One said 1.8 million, another said 14, and I think it'll be almost impossible to get right numbers because of the secrecy the USSR had during that time (especially during the Cold War). I know he did great things, but I truly believe that those are far overshadowed by the shady and cruel things he did. Another specific example would be his infamous Order 227. I acknowledge that he did a great job of mobilizing the economy and industry to help defeat the Nazis while being in an active invasion. That being said, I believe we can find better communist leaders that didn't kill at least 700,000 of his political opponents to maintain power, with some sources estimating between 650,000 and 1.2 million. That last link is directed to a PDF from the Jackson School of International Studies. Like I said, I know he did great things, and we should draw a light to those actions, but we shouldn't blindly say he was great. I think we have different people in history that set a much better example, like Fidel Castro for one. None of this was meant as a personal attack, just trying to back up my points of view and explain why part of my post was just numskullery :)

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an actual question that may come off as inflammatory about Stalin. (lemmygrad.ml)
 

Once again, this is an actual question; and I'm hoping to broaden my horizons and have a good conversation or two. I'm relatively new to commie subs, still trying to read political theory to figure out which one I like the most, so this might come off as uneducated. But why am I seeing so many positive posts about Stalin, followed by some comments that boil down to "Stalin was good, if you think he wasn't, that's just western propaganda" I'm thinking of the post that mentioned the 1921 Soviet Famine as a specific example. I know that Stalin didn't create the famine, it was a byproduct of almost a decade of war, unrest, and a ton of other factors. But Stalin did do some bad shit. Things like sending 14 million people to gulags to work as slave labor, and killing millions more in his purges. I would argue that he used communism to become an authoritarian. Similar to how Putin is ruling now, stuffing ballot boxes, starting wars, and pushing propaganda. (I realize that we get pushed propaganda, too in the form of faux news, MSNBC, and most media outlets. I don't wish to have a discussion that boils down to "we do it too, you just don't see it")