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[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I agree. They need improvement.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45206293

Brazil's authoritarian age verification law became active this month. It won't be implemented by GrapheneOS. Complying would require integrating a mandatory process for each user where a third party service checks government identification and confirms a match using the camera.

It doesn't stop there. It would require keeping data for auditing and providing a token for connecting age verification checks by apps and websites to the data. The law is a privacy disaster and exposes minors to being exploited by leaking their age bracket to apps and websites.

GrapheneOS has no team members or operations in Brazil. São Paulo in Brazil is by far the biggest network hub within South America. Miami is also a major network hub for South America and is currently where our update server is for South America since it's dramatically cheaper.

We have a tiny VPS in São Paulo for our ns1 anycast DNS and a second for our website/network services. It probably isn't an issue and those can be removed if necessary. Santiago could be added for both instead but wouldn't work very well as a replacement for having São Paulo.

There aren't yet devices supporting GrapheneOS directly sold in South America. Brazil in particular has unusually high import duties/taxes which add up to around 100%. This has resulted in us not having a lot of users there but our Motorola partnership will start changing this.

People are going to have their personal info leaked by third party age verification services due to these laws. Children are going to be harmed by apps and websites changing their behavior to exploit them. It isn't going to stop minors finding pornography if they want to find it.

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

i personally think people who maintain distros outside of these countries/regions will just ignore these requirements

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

It'd lilely be to OEM selling the phones in the state, since GrapheneOS is run in a country with different laws.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45059519

Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?

We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:

https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer

Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45059519

Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?

We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:

https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer

Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45059519

Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?

We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:

https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer

Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45059519

Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?

We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:

https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer

Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.

 

Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?

We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:

https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer

Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

They need several years of updates for firmware, baseband radios etc from the OEM, They also need a robust secure element, this is why spec requirements are as they are. Mainly for the end user's security & privacy can't have privacy without actual security.

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Same here! Thank you for your kind comment

 

We strongly oppose the Unified Attestation initiative and call for app developers supporting privacy, security and freedom on mobile to avoid it. Companies selling phones should not be deciding which operating systems people are allowed to use for apps.

https://uattest.net/

Google's Play Integrity API is a horrible system enforcing using devices officially licensing Google Mobile Services. It permits those regardless of how many years behind they are on security patches. The solution to this isn't another anti-competitive system based in Europe.

Play Integrity API should be regulated out of existence rather than making another system where companies permit their own products while disallowing others. It shouldn't be legal when Google does it and it shouldn't be legal when Volla and Murena do it either. This is wrong.

Hardware-based attestation has valid use cases including the Auditor app on GrapheneOS for protecting users. The way these companies are using it serves no truly useful purpose beyond giving themselves as unfair advantage while pretending it has something to do with security.

If banks and governments insist on checking devices for security they should define actual standards. It should be possible for any tiny project to be certified at no cost and the standards should be fairly enforced so a mainstream device without current patches is disallowed.

Volla, Murena and iodé sell products with atrocious security. They fail to provide important patches and protections while misleading users with inaccurate claims about privacy and security. That includes setting an inaccurate Android security patch level despite missing patches.

These companies should not have any say over which devices can be used for European banking and government apps. It will reduce competition and reduce security exactly as the Play Integrity API is already doing. The EU should ban using attestation to determine OS compatibility.

Murena and iodé are extremely hostile towards GrapheneOS. They've spent years misleading people about it with inaccurate claims to promote their insecure products. We'll never work with them. Volla, Murena and iodé should have no say in which OS people can use on their devices.

There's no legitimate purpose for either Play Integrity or Unified Attestation to exist. Both will inherently fail to uphold even basic security standards since otherwise their own products wouldn't be allowed. Root-based attestation is also inherently not a secure approach.

Having a European version of the Play Integrity which permits people to use insecure products from specific European companies participating in it while disallowing using arbitrary hardware or software is the opposite of a solution. It's more of the same anti-competitive garbage.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43923687

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43923170

We're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43923687

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43923170

We're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43923170

We're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

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