FrogCat

Him seeming like a "weirdo" makes more sense when you look at his background. He was influenced by the hippie culture of the 60s and 70s. He travelled to India when he was a young adult and he got into Buddhism. I think all of that stuff inspired him to try things which are unconventional in western countries.

As for what you mentioned about jumping to the front of a transplant queue, yes that's obviously selfish and wrong, if he did indeed do that.

Your in-laws sound like GB News viewers here in the UK. GB News is a right-wing news TV channel, and it has only existed for a few years. Previously people had to watch BBC News or Sky News, which are both pretty moderate. But now right-leaning voters can get sucked into GB News propaganda. They are never shown different sides of an argument presented fairly; instead everything they are shown is highly biased.

Maybe actually I'm making a mistake by comparing the French election with the 2024 US election because of the different voting systems.

I suppose leftist voters in France might think "if we can get Melenchon into the second round then moderates will have to vote for him to keep out Le Pen". So then the second round polling between Melenchon and Le Pen might change when the reality sets in that Melenchon and Le Pen are the only two options. Which is different to the single-round US presidential election, where the only two realistic candidates to win were Trump and Harris. In that US election, every anti-Trump non-voter just helped Trump.

As for Melenchon being anti-Ukraine, I don't know his stance in detail, but like you, I'm not in favour of anti-Ukraine stances.

I'm just looking at polling. In fact Melenchon now seems to be in second place for the first round, behind Le Pen, so perhaps he is likely to get into the second round. But the problem is that he fares worse than Philippe in the second round against Le Pen.

The most recent second round polls seem to show this:

• Philippe ~44%, Le Pen ~56%
• Melenchon ~31%, Le Pen ~69%

Of course polling can change. Pollsters in 2016 thought Hillary Clinton would enter the White House. But still, at the moment, if Melenchon gets to the second round, it looks like a victory for Le Pen is more likely.

I guess with the French election I'm mainly thinking about the second round. If it's Philippe versus Le Pen then hopefully enough people will back Philippe, because I think Le Pen would be worse.

In the first round maybe there's more freedom to vote for who you really like. But if it ends up being Melenchon versus Le Pen in the second round, it could be pretty difficult to stop Le Pen winning.

Okay I'm going to block you now. I've been polite in every response I've given. What I'm saying is "let's agree to disagree" but apparently you aren't happy with that.

Protip: it's not polite in any way to describe a person you're talking to as "a lost cause", and that's why I'm blocking you.

Torygraph propagandists are losing their jobs?

Let me go and find my microscopic violin...

Maybe we just look at it in different ways and I think that's fine. People can have different perspectives.

Someone who claims to be talking to Spider-Man telepathically might be doing so. I think it's unlikely, but I don't think I can rule it out 100%. Personally I don't think Thor or Yoda or Gandalf are different in this context because I think they're all fictional, but one day maybe it will be proven that at least one of them actually exists, although I think that's unlikely.

Anyway, originally I was just saying my view about religion. I don't think I'd label every religion as "bad". I think religion can inspire some people to do bad things, but it also seems to inspire some people to do good things. That's just the way I see it really.

Rich people pump money into politics in order to amplify their personal whims. Then they wonder why self-described socialist politicians are becoming more popular.

I think they're probably not talking to ghosts/aliens/etc, but I can't rule it out 100%. Just like I don't believe in God, although I can't be 100% certain that God doesn't exist. So I'm an agnostic atheist I guess - I don't believe in God but I'm not 100% certain of his non-existence. Maybe God will reveal himself in the future, although I doubt it.

what made you give up your religion?

I've never been religious. My parents aren't religious, so religion was something our family was never into.

Apparently he has citizenship of the USA and Canada as well as South Africa:

According to Isaacson’s biography and an Esquire magazine profile of Musk, he became a US citizen in 2002