
"Always has been"
AmazingWizard
You can read the bible in China.
Feel free to explain to the class how you are not in a cult.
You're not a leftist.
StarTrek is cool and good!
I notice the sidebar says "Active Plugins", which is dope, I think plugin's will open up a lot of possibilities for Lemmy. I'll have to look around, but it got me thinking: I wonder if it's a worth it now, or if it would be a pain in the ass, to spin up my own test instance (not hard) to start building and playing around with the plugin system.
@nutomic@lemmy.ml are the instructions under the plugins section of join-lemmy.org still valid if I wanted to do some plugin development tinkering?
That's the name of the test instance, they have several, they're all named after StarTrek ships.
I will correct the record a little here and say it is not blocked by default, but it IS used to decide if a given instance has "Good" defederation policies or not. When new users, look for an instance to join using the main piefed instance. Which, on its face, is ideologically motivated, especially when you consider it also uses two other publically socialist instances and only one right wing instance to calculate how "Good" an instance's defederation policies are. So a 3 to 1 ratio according to the team at Piefed, they would take one fascist instance over 3 socialist instances according to their own metric. What's interesting to me is that Lemmy, as a platform and a piece of infrastructure built and maintained by open communists, has none of these issues. You might take issue with the way Lemmy.ml, or Hexbear, or Lemmygrad manage their instances, but none of that is a result of the codebase.
Ok, you have this completely off base about it "not doing anything". While I might be wrong about it defederating, what this code ACTUALLY does is rate other instances defederation lists based on this hard coded list. Let me explain:
The site_instance_chooser_view() function in /app/api/alpha/views.py provides a JSON representation of the current site's metadata for the instance chooser feature. This feature allows users to browse and compare different Fediverse instances before choosing one to join.
Within site_instance_chooser_view(), the defed_list variable is defined as follows (lines 1148‑1151):
defed_list = BannedInstances.query.filter(or_(BannedInstances.domain == 'hexbear.net',
BannedInstances.domain == 'lemmygrad.ml',
BannedInstances.domain == 'hilariouschaos.com',
BannedInstances.domain == 'lemmy.ml')).order_by(BannedInstances.domain).all()
This query retrieves only four specific domains from the BannedInstances table:
hexbear.netlemmygrad.mlhilariouschaos.comlemmy.ml
The resulting list is used to populate the defederation field in the returned JSON (line 1187):
'defederation': list(set([instance.domain for instance in defed_list])),
The defederation field is part of the site metadata returned by the API endpoint /api/alpha/site/instance_chooser. This endpoint is called by the instance‑chooser UI (/auth/instance_chooser) when a user clicks “More” on an instance card.
The template app/templates/auth/instance_chooser.html uses the defederation list to compute a defederation quality rating. The rating is based on how many of the four watched domains are blocked:
- ≥3 blocked → “Good”
- 2 blocked → “Ok”
- 1 blocked → “Minimal”
- <1 blocked → “Negligent”
This rating is displayed in the instance details modal under the “Defederation” label (line 114 of the template).
The UI also contains commented‑out code (lines 124‑130) that would show individual status indicators for each of the four domains, but this is currently disabled.
This is problematic for a number of reasons, most of all is that this rating that it generates is NOT transparent to the user. This page is used on PieFeds main page when you go to register, it's part of the instance picker. The defederation rating under More is where this shows up. For instance, this means that instances like anarchist.nexus have a "OK" rating but instances like multiverse.soulism.net have a "GOOD" rating.
Anarchist.nexus has an "OK" raiding because they block Lemmygrad.ml (socialist) and hilariouschaos.com (MAGA instance)
multiverse.soulism.net has a "GOOD" rating because they block Lemmygrad.ml (socialist), Hexbear.net (socialist), lemmy.ml (operated by open communists).
So the Defederation rating has an OBVIOUS BIAS that isn't explained to the users at all. Not only is the bias not explained it doesn't even contain all of the FASCIST INSTANCES IN ITS CALCULATION.
Ah yeah I see that. It still doesn't change my position on if the system should have defaults.
Naturally! Otherwise, we'll never get to the Fallout future where people call us Pinko's again and Canada finally becomes the Big 51.


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