"they're not in al-Shifa, they're actually in this other hospital!"
this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
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they're actually in multiple
I'm sure that's why the BBC found a planted gun in the MRI room of al-Shifa...
A planted gun? As in the IDF put it there?
Ignore the user who posted it, but this was recently aired on BBC: https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1725581508340015530
The IDF claims that, between their first video through the MRI room and when they led the BBC through it, they found another gun and put it in the MRI room.
We can take a step back and ask why guns made of metal were anywhere near an MRI, but we can also ask where the IDF supposedly "found" the original guns.
Also of note is that the laptop shown at the end of the "uncut" al-Shifa video... Uses an Israeli power plug and displays an IDF soldier. The IDF later took the video down and re-uploaded it with that picture blurred.
I'm not buying anything the BBC says regarding this conflict. They have repeatedly had to apologise for flat-out lying during their reporting.
As BBC News covered initial reports that Israeli forces had entered Gaza’s main hospital, we said that “medical teams and Arab speakers” were being targeted. This was incorrect and misquoted a Reuters report. We should have said IDF forces included medical teams and Arabic speakers for this operation. We apologise for this error, which fell below our usual editorial standards. The correct version of events was broadcast minutes later and we apologised for the mistake on air later in the morning.
Oh, but there's even more. In 2004, the former BBC Director of News commissioned a report into the impartiality of the BBC reporting on conflicts in the Middle East, particularly Israel-Palestine. The BBC spent £330,000 in legal costs (not including staff or VAT) contesting again and again the findings of the report, themselves refusing to publically release the report's findings. Fighting in court repeatedly against activists for almost a decade to withhold the report findings is extremely suspicious.
We can take a step back and ask why guns made of metal were anywhere near an MRI, but we can also ask where the IDF supposedly “found” the original guns.
Because without electricity, the MRI is off? Hospitals don't tend to use MRIs during extraordinary crises due to power consumption.
Also of note is that the laptop shown at the end of the “uncut” al-Shifa video… Uses an Israeli power plug and displays an IDF soldier. The IDF later took the video down and re-uploaded it with that picture blurred.
Yes, in the video, they say that it was one of their captured soldiers. As for the power plug, I don't see what that proves? The soldiers plugged in the laptop to view its contents? Hamas had an Israeli power bank? The main issue is that there were guns inside the hospital, which violates Article 19 of the Geneva Convention, which means that the hospital loses its immunity--that's the problem worth noting here.
The IDF published the first video and the BBC published the second video. You can verify the presence of an additional gun yourself.
That means that we know the IDF intentionally placed another gun behind the MRI machine and calls into question whether the other guns were placed there by the IDF as well.
The IDF is framing it as an uncut, first look inside the hospital (that is, before the IDF got a chance to mess around and manipulate evidence). That's clearly untrue, which is why the IDF took the video down and blurred the laptop.
I dunno why i bother when you just ignore all the evidence that the BBC can't be trusted.
The whole argument about whether they are or aren't in any given spot is moot. Israel isn't differentiating between Hamas and civilians, and none of this is an actual defensive operation.
If Netanyahu wanted to actually protect Israelis, the obvious ways to do so are to:
- Staff the Gaza boarder crossings. They were largely unmanned, as they troops were relocated to assist in illegally annexing the West Bank.
- Replace Hamas. Netanyahu repeatedly supported Hamas because he said that their rule in Gaza prevented the PLO from negotiating for peace.
- Stop trying to ignite terrorism in the West Bank. The whole point of all of this is to TRY to create violence that justifies land theft. He's literally not trying to keep Israeli's safe.
- Just negotiate peace. He's been in charge for nearly a generation, and his primary legacy has been eroding civil rights for both Israelis AND Palestinians.
It's just maddening how we get focused on the trees instead of the forest: Netanyahu has been an authoritarian war criminal for decades, and under his control this situation will never lead to peace or security, because that's never been the goal.
and how do you get the hostages back and launch a counteroffensive because Hamas broke the ceasefire that was in place?
I don't understand what you're asking. Can you rephrase it?
Israel's extreme response is because Hamas killed roughly one thousand innocent lives and also captured civilian and military hostages. How do you get them back while responding to the attack?
You pick up the phone and negotiate a hostage exchange.
You say, meet us at this spot tomorrow with 10 of the oldest and youngest hostages you've got and we'll do the same. If it goes well, we'll talk about doing another exchange the next day.
That's what Hamas wants. That's what they've usually taken and returned hostages for. Hamas released two hostages so far in the weeks this has been going on. How come someone negotiated for 2 and then stopped there?
And Israeli response to the massacre?