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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, I do agree that what Israel is currently doing is worse than what China is doing, but being less violent than an active war zone doesn't really mean much when you're both committing genocide. Absolutely unhinged opinion

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a largely unengaged Lemmy lurker, y'all need to take a chill pill, this feels like an excerpt of the red scare. Picking a fight with the anarchist techies because one dude has an opinion that's not even unhinged, about something that most of us here cant even talk about with any certainty.....come on.

This whole thing is actually overblown and misrepresented.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Picking a fight with the anarchist techies because one dude has an opinion

The 'one dude' is an admin.

that’s not even unhinged,

... downplaying the Uyghur genocide isn't unhinged?

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The ‘one dude’ is an admin.

Of a lemmy server, there's no requirements to spin up an instance. Admin just means "person with the time."

downplaying the Uyghur genocide isn’t unhinged

Comparing the cultural erasure/washing happening in Xianjing to what's happening in Palestine is a tad disingenuous at best.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Of a lemmy server, there’s no requirements to spin up an instance. Admin just means “person with the time.”

Dbzer0 is one of the biggest instances on the Fediverse. It's not some fucking rando. And even if it was, how the ever-loving fuck would that justify genocide denial?

Comparing the cultural erasure/washing happening in Xianjing to what’s happening in Palestine is a tad disingenuous at best.

The difference between the two is that the Palestinian genocide went 'hot' after Oct 7. But sure, let's go with implying that it's not a real genocide, and saying it's overblown and misrepresented by 'the West'.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dbzer0 is one of the biggest instances on the Fediverse. It’s not some fucking rando.

I'm not sure how that's relevant though, the admin is just another person with opinions but I'll concede it's a pretty big instance.

I still see HB and most of the .ml instances. It's not that hard to see shit takes and just acknowledge it's a shit take and move on.

The difference between the two is that the Palestinian genocide went ‘hot’ after Oct 7.

The biggest difference to me is my money isn't going to exterminate the Uyghur population of Chinese provinces the way it's being used to wipe Palestine off the map.

But sure let's go with implying that two horrible situations are the same because I can only think in black and white terms. Nuance and subtlety are irrelevant as long as I can get internet points or something.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure how that’s relevant though, the admin is just another person with opinions but I’ll concede it’s a pretty big instance.

I still see HB and most of the .ml instances. It’s not that hard to see shit takes and just acknowledge it’s a shit take and move on.

... other than acknowledging someone openly having a shit take simping for genocide, what do you think is being done here?

The biggest difference to me is my money isn’t going to exterminate the Uyghur population of Chinese provinces the way it’s being used to wipe Palestine off the map.

But sure let’s go with implying that two horrible situations are the same because I can only think in black and white terms. Nuance and subtlety are irrelevant as long as I can get internet points or something.

What the ever-loving fuck does that have to do with simping for genocide being bad?

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has been restricting access to food, water, and electricity in Gaza for many years. Long before Oct 7. Palestinians have been living in an open air prison for a long time. The IDF responds to peaceful protest by seeing how many kneecaps they can snipe. Settlers routinely descend on villages and just start burning shit to the ground. So no, it didn’t go “hot” after Oct 7th. You should really educate yourself on the subjects you’re talking about.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Palestinians have been living in an open air prison for a long time.

What the ever-loving fuck do you think Xinjiang is

So no, it didn’t go “hot” after Oct 7th.

Oh, my mistake, the current phase of the Palestinian genocide is completely indistinguishable in intensity from the prior phases of the Palestinian genocide, you're absolutely right. /s

You should really educate yourself on the subjects you’re talking about.

How fucking ironic.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahaha wow you American liberals are quicker to anger than the conservatives at this point. Ya love to see it

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hahaha wow you American liberals are quicker to anger than the conservatives at this point. Ya love to see it

... what?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why make two threads? Both are missing most of the convo. I don't think what he is saying is right but he does clarify his position right after.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why make two threads?

Because each time something new and horrific was said? The two threads weren't made at the same time, and I wasn't aware that Unruffled was going to skip from 'defending Uyghur genocide denial' to 'being an Uyghur genocide denier' when I made the first one.

I don’t think what he is saying is right but he does clarify his position right after.

By 'clarify' you mean 'directly contradict'?

If someone dismisses genocide, then, after being called out on it, half-assedly walks it back, which is the sincere position?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fair enough but personally, I do think you should let things settle a bit before making threads on them. When I commented, I was under the impression you reposted because the other one got downvoted.

I agree on your impression of the whole of it though. Not sure why he had to put quotes around the word genocide for instance.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...yeah. I blocked that whole instance a week or two ago. c/Piracy just isn't worth it. Also, never liked that Unruffled person all that much, and I really don't like them after this ""It's only genocide if I can blame the US - otherwise it's just 'Sparkling Crimes Against Humanity'" 🙄

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

predictable tankie behavior

[–] eelectricshock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Illogical arguments that assume that there's some collective Western authority I.e. propaganda ministry that is at play here. Many individual journalists and historians have studied this topic. There's nothing to deny here, even credible sources have confirmed that China accepts the existence of education camps.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Proudly got banned from this professional clowns (OP, not OOP) com LOL

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, you quite proudly simped for Russian imperialism and claimed that Ukraine wasn't a 'real' country. I wouldn't be suprised if you were a supporter of Uyghur genocide and the Holodomor as well. Fuck off, fascist.