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The Trump administration’s support for these claims, while stopping other new refugee arrivals, has inflamed uncomfortable conversations about how far racial reconciliation still has to go, three decades after the end of white minority rule.

The US president’s offer was a “godsend”, said Kyle, now a salesman working remotely for an overseas company: “I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.”

White Afrikaner governments racially segregated every aspect of life from relationships to where people were allowed to live during apartheid, repressing South Africa’s Black majority while keeping the white minority safe and much better off.

South Africa remains deeply unequal, more than 30 years since the system ended. The black South African unemployment rate is 46.1%, for example, compared with 9.2% for white people.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump's main minion Elon is behind these whispers into Trump's ear about his bringing over his "ilk".

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

also to whisper you pooped yourself again.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a slur for white South Africans or do I need to make one?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.

If your children are old enough to work, and they don't even know about your country's most pressing issue that only ended like 30 years ago, then no wonder they're at the bottom of the hiring list.

They're ignorant fucks! Lol

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... he didn't say they are at the bottom because they are white.

Maybe they are at the bottom of the list because they are dumb as rocks, and happen to be white. And he knows being dumb in America is no impediment, so he wants the asylum.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely implied by his phrasing, "I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here."

This is explicitly stating that white children are at the bottom of the hiring list I'm the USA. The only identifier he gave of his children is that they're white, and that is enough to put them at the bottom of the hiring list here.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, that's probably not what they're implying.

I read that as "when my kids who have never experienced the reality of apartheid grow up, they will be discriminated against because they are white"

The article is FULL of little bits like that to make them sound like reasonable people just trying to live. Thankfully the article also provides contrary evidence: 9.2% unemployment rate.

Rich afrikaners who are upset apartheid is gone and they now have to be treated like normal people bitching about how they now have to actually earn jobs instead of being handed one for being white, and they still have the majority of jobs.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

imo, you read that with a positive interpretation.

If they were saying that, they should've said that their kids "never experienced it" or "never participated in it" or "didn't live through it".

But instead, they said their kids "don't know what apartheid is".

If they misspoke, fine. But I don't know with certainty that they meant what you said. I think they might've meant what they said.

[–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if an American conservative said "My kids are bottom of the college acceptance lists due to affirmative action; it's bullshit, they don't even know what slavery is," what age would you infer that their children are?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Where are you going with this?

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Owen Wilson is looking rough these days.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

We don’t need more Nazis

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non-whites have 4x the employment rate and whites are whining about not being on hiring lists? And are they aware that Trump was partially elected because of people here not wanting them competing for same jobs?

What a mess we've made of our species

[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not defending it but their population metrics are crazy. They have 80% black africans from different tribes. While white people account for only 7.3% of the population. It seems more like a failure of their government than the fault of any particular race here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you suggesting is a crazy metric?

What do you see as a failure? Specifically, what are you not defending?

I'm not sure what correlation is obvious, but I'm missing it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

I think, if you're racist, then that comment and chart would be alarming to you?

So really, they're just self reporting. At least that's how I read it.

[–] CBYX@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have got to revoke their refugee status after this administration. This isn't remotely valid claims.

they are orange

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When a major political party has rallies with chants such as “shoot to kill, kill the Boer, kill the farmer”…

I’d say refugee status is appropriate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/08/04/what-to-know-about-south-africas-kill-the-boer-chant-as-elon-musk-sounds-alarm/

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There aren't white farm workers in South Africa. Only black Africans are doing farm labor. So who is the 'white farmer'? What does it mean? It's the farm owner who gets all the product of the African farm labor and gives next to none of it to the farm laborers. Don't try and condemn something you don't understand.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

A major political party with thousands of followers threatening to kill you is pretty simple understand.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You take them then. They are absolute pigs.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Happily, my best neighbors are from SA. I also dated a girl from SA.

You can have all the folks who chant death to the boar, death to the farmer. I’m sure you and that energy will mix well.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wierd how they dint try to expel all the whites from africa after it ended.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I suspect that Trump offering asylum to Afrikaners has more to do with USA being pissed at SA for the Gaza case than him thinking there is a "South African Genocide". He's just trying to stir the pot but generally South Africans don't take this seriously. Some people on here though...

[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has added some new jokes at the braai. Also spawned arguments about who wants Elon the least.

Nice to see a fellow SAn here.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know, the whole "the blacks in South Africa have physically removed white land owners. It's now illegal to be white in South Africa" shit was a major MAGA/qanon/Fox News talking point for a while.

I think this is truly just racist brain rot.

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[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would I want these ultra racist slavers to come here when the economy is tanking so they can buy up shit cheap?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

We already have one in the US that is doing just that

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Because that's what amerikkka is all about.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would I want these ultra racist slavers to come here when the economy is tanking so they can buy up shit cheap?

Since you asked and now that I think about it, with educated and more open-minded Americans emigrating, I think Afrikaners will take their place instead...

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I know what they're going to do I'm asking why would I want them?

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You think these losers are going to be buying anything ?

We have these arseholes in Australia and they are barely capable of cleaning bogs.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How come they say Afrikaners instead of Africans?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

White pride?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Because it has a very specific meaning.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pulido@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dang, they really wanted to separate themselves from the people they were colonizing.

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[–] LaoisheFu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

USA can take all the racists and the rest of us will take the American refugees. Then we can finish the wall from the outside.

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