linux4noobs

4200 readers

1 users here now

linux4noobs

Noob Friendly, Expert Enabling

Whether you're a seasoned pro or the noobiest of noobs, you've found the right place for Linux support and information. With a dedication to supporting free and open source software, this community aims to ensure Linux fits your needs and works for you. From troubleshooting to tutorials, practical tips, news and more, all aspects of Linux are warmly welcomed. Join a community of like-minded enthusiasts and professionals driving Linux's ongoing evolution.

Seeking Support?

Mention your Linux distro and relevant system details.
Describe what you've tried so far.
Share your solution even if you found it yourself.
Do not delete your post. This allows other people to see possible solutions if they have a similar problem.
Properly format any scripts, code, logs, or error messages.
Be mindful to omit any sensitive information such as usernames, passwords, IP addresses, etc.

Community Rules

Keep discussions respectful and amiable. This community is a space where individuals may freely inquire, exchange thoughts, express viewpoints, and extend help without encountering belittlement. We were all a noob at one point. Differing opinions and ideas is a normal part of discourse, but it must remain civil. Offenders will be warned and/or removed.
Posts must be Linux oriented
Spam or affiliate links will not be tolerated.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

PlutoParty@programming.dev

Updated Debian12>13 and now software updates are failing (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 9 months ago by clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works to c/linux4noobs@programming.dev

2 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Hiya,

I've been meaning to switch off of Debian for a while but I'm intimidated by fear of having a worse experience and my only PC (work and personal) being out of action until I get it sorted. Maybe the time has come to take my current distro behind the woodshed.

I updated from Debian 12 to 13 yesterday, following the instructions here: https://www.linuxlookup.com/howto/upgrade_debian_12_debian_13

The last step fails, and I assume that's why I'm now in trouble.

$ sudo apt modernize-sources
E: Invalid operation modernize-sources

Searching for "Invalid operation modernize-sources" gives me literally zero results from DDG.

After reboot I opened KDE Discover and checked for updates - there are 2,000+. Yeesh. OK. I haven't found one that will actually update, presumably because the sources are wrong? I get different errors.

For example, updating the Clock (I can't believe the clock needs updating) auto-selects some other packages, I assume dependencies. Many minutes later I get the error:

The PackageKit daemon has crashed:
The PackageKit daemon has crashed

Firefox doesn't select any other options, but fails quickly with:

Dependency resolution failed:<br/><br/>The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libreoffice-core: Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 (&gt;= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
                    Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-base but it is not going to be installed
                    Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-good but it is not going to be installed
                    Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly but it is not going to be installed
                    Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad but it is not going to be installed
                    Recommends: gstreamer1.0-libav but it is not going to be installed

Is this worth fixing? Is it a sign to finally kill my Debian and try something new?

A kind lemming suggested Nixos and was persuasive, but my reading indicates that's more for sysadmins deploying systems than for a bearded guy in his home office with one PC.

I just want my computer to work...

top 2 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 0 points 9 months ago

There shouldn't be any updates available after doing a full upgrade. Maybe you forgot one of the apt full-upgrade steps. That should have upgraded apt to give you new options. So just do that.

I'd also use the official documentation. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/release-notes/upgrading.en.html

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago

The last step fails, and I assume that’s why I’m now in trouble.

$ sudo apt modernize-sources E: Invalid operation modernize-sources

Not sure about the error but I kind of doubt modernize-sources would make/break your upgrade. I did a clean full install of Debian 13 and the sources file wasn't even modernized on that, it's still the old version. Would be very surprised if somehow sources is following a different requirement for a Debian 13 upgrade.

From the error maybe your version of apt doesn't support the "modernize-sources" option.. but that itself isn't relevant to your Debian upgrade.