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Thoughts on Kagi? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by wavydotdot@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I've been using this search engine and I have to say I'm absolutely in love with it.

Search results are great, Google level even. Can't tell you how happy I am after trying multiple privacy oriented engines and always feeling underwhelmed with them.

Have you tried it? What are your thoughts on it?

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[+] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] wavydotdot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate on the comments? I haven't read any of them.

[+] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I know what you are referring to with regards to the LGBTQ+ matter, but the only source is the user who reported it (with a screenshot that did not show anything), the same user who used some completely dishonest and bad faith arguments* to slander the CEO guy. I wouldn't take that at face value and I have absolutely no problem to see, instead, a reason to moderate their comments.

* the CEO of kagi has a website with a "best country ranking", which is just a stupid page with 15 criterias chosen to rank which country is the greatest. The argument was that the guy must be a racist/white suprematist because the top countries for the most part were white (and wealthy. Duh). Apparently they were especially pissed about the fact that he decided to include the Olympic medals pro capite, despite the fact that it's one of the few metrics in which first world countries were not at the top.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

with a screenshot that did not show anything

the screenshot shows a thread on Kagi's Discord that's been deleted almost immediately after that screenshot has been taken, while other user's calls to "stop shoving LGBTQ down our throats" have been left up.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The screenshot shows an off-topic comment that complains about other comments being "left up", and the CEO that answers that nothing has been deleted, in fact (I suppose in regards to the topic). The thread in the screenshot was (going to be) deleted because it's off-topic, it's a meta-conversation that doesn't add anything to the general discussion, if not noise and chaos (and tbh, following long conversation in discord is already terrible as it is).

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] wavydotdot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This made me sad. I actually thought I found the search engine I was looking for and now I get this shit.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's ridiculously expensive. It's not private if you have to link your searches to a paid account and none of those payment providers are private. They don't seem to have open sourced any of their key functionality, meaning you have to trust them to not be collecting your activity data.

I spent a long time getting rid of software and using services that I either no longer trusted or was unable to make an informed choice due to their lack of open source code and I'm not going to take a retrograde step now. And that's without the issue with their choice (a continued choice I believe) to use Brave results, a company I'm personally not prepared to support.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If they don't cache your search history to your identity, which they claim they don't, then I'm not sure why that's a problem.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Because claiming they don't is not the same as being able to verify they don't by making their code open source.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not a fan of them doing business with Brave and how they handled criticism from the community.

[–] Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For context: They edited their anwser and said the old one was bad. https://kagifeedback.org/d/2808-reconsider-your-partnership-with-brave

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do they have an android app? I haven't been able to find anything that looks trustworthy

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've used Quick Search since 2013. Simple, configurable.

Back then I had it tied to the search button (which no longer exists ☹️)

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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