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Some of the worst LLM takes I've seen in a while. I've never thought FLOSS would be taken over by proprietary torment nexuses so fast.

The discussion will probably continue behind closed doors, so the public has no way of knowing who says what and corporations have their way easier.

And someone got exposed for being a Nazi.

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[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] gbargoud@masto.nyc 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@vikingtons @Kiriko

All of the "but I was so polite in this thread" reads like some "I'm not touching you" bullshit.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Its pretty fucking crazy. Seems they also didn't really read the room in that thread aside from those tweets.

all in all, a rich tapestry of oof

[–] darkling@mstdn.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@vikingtons @Kiriko That link is returning 403 for me. I guess they locked it away *hard*.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I'm still able to see it here. Wonder if it's some CDN outage?

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

link returns "Work item not found" for me; is it deleted?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Yes, they removed it from being viewed from the public due to the PR backlash it was generating. You can still read it on an archive site.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you are still donating to KDE please consider cancelling and let the KDE devs know.

[–] ShyFae@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A majority of KDE developers are determined to create an LLM policy that allows AI code submissions without any form of disclosure to "avoid shaming", and appear to be completely dismissing any ethical, environmental, or copyright concerns brought up.

[–] kevin@dice.camp 8 points 4 days ago
[–] Dimand@aussie.zone 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

LLM usage

The golden rule for LLM usage in KDE is Don't be lazy:

Don't try to use a tool to replace your own judgment, interpersonal communication, or learning process.

Don't take unsustainable shortcuts.

Don't avoid growing as a person.

The result will be poor-quality work that eventually becomes someone else's problem.

Nobody in KDE should know if you use an LLM — not because you're concealing it, but because your usage of it produces output indistinguishable from what you could produce yourself. Contributions with obvious and lazy LLM usage may be ignored or closed.

Are we reading that same thing? Hardly seems like a pro LLM stance or the worst take that could be made.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

DraftKings telling kids to gamble responsibly

[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago

that’s great, thanks

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I don’t get the fuss here. The KDE LLM policy is essentially the same as the Linux kernel. Aka human driven, human responsible, LLM assisted coding.

Unless you are running KDE on NetBSD you where already using LLM assisted code.

[–] rhamph@awful.systems 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t get the fuss here. The KDE LLM policy is essentially the same as the Linux kernel.

Psssst! Slop in the kernel is also bad

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Have you seen the quality of the code in the kernel? I am no c fan but the bar and standards are incredibly high.

The kernel is certainly LLM assisted but I don’t think any honest dev can look at say the recent LLM assisted code and call it slop. If anything the quality of Linux code has gotten higher over the past decade.

I am not a fan of vibe coded slop and I don’t think it’s fair to call the kernel slop.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

hogher

Bristley? Invasive? Dangerous? Not kosher?

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Typo fixed. I mean better.

[–] flowerysong@awful.systems 5 points 4 days ago

Fuck off, no one asked you for your bad opinions.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 4 days ago

it’s slop

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago

The first rule of holes always applies