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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

(OT: 🎶 Do you remember...)

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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nobody: "What the Internet needs is more messages that American capitalism is the best of all possible worlds and if you fail its your own individual atomic fault for not trying harder."

Girl Lich: here are some slop music videos of my songs "Skill Issue" and "Everyone Gets Paid" https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/channel/UCYAghJk7NG3b900IEbBY55g

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

WAITING FOR HER LIFE TO END SHE DESERVES HER DIVIDEND

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Using AI is a skill issue in and of itself, adding some accidental irony to the title

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

LW not beating cult allegations by including on title bar a link to an actual secular candlelit ceremony instructions, whose narrative places computer touchers generally and chatbots specifically at pinnacle of human development. as in, on par with invention of language and fire. amazing self-report

[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

A ritual relying on a terribly eurocentric history of humanity, that quotes Nick Bostrom alongside Galileo and Thomas Edison? Why, LessWrongers, you shouldn't have....no really, you shouldn't have.

Also they do the "that's a nice quote isn't it....it's from Hitler!" bit, which seems like kind of a cheap routine to have in your ritual.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ow look petrov day. Looks closer its about the acausalrobotgod.

And really? A Battlestar Galactica reference? (The so say we all stuff).

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

tbf i've only skimmed it after going through sixth or so after looking at scroll bar

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

I was skimming it and then scrolled down to check if they went all 'AI scary', and then I saw some weird ritual parts in the end where I saw the 'so say we all' bits.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

This is a literal indoctrination ceremony to soften people up to the idea of progress at all costs.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the number of ~~felonies~~ ‘incidents’ that AI companies have committed is way, way higher than initially believed (unpaywalled ver)

[–] samvines@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The sheer number of incidents, which occurred in recent months in internal testing and the real world, indicates that the problem is orders of magnitude more complex than what is publicly known.

This is frustratingly vapid. It's really not that complex. The agents have been trained to use hacking tools and then given access to hacking tools. If you train a pigeon that it should tap on a window to get a treat it can guide a missile to a target. There is no nuance or complexity here. The frontier labs are deliberately poking the regulation bear to stifle competition and ensure they get points for good cooperation when bailout time is upon us. It's no more complicated than that. The media needs to stop breathlessly repeating this shit

Also the main problem here is that security has been shit for years because the result of any security incident anywhere by-and-large been a "not my problem" situation for the companies hacked.

I actually love the pigeon missile analogy here. Sure, you can wax poetic about how impressive it is to train a pigeon to do much of anything, and you did have to work hard and apply specialized knowledge and whatever to make it happen, but outside of animal training circles the pigeon is the least interesting or dangerous part of the whole contraption.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah they are sort of script kiddies without the kids. (Which fits with how Ibheard AI be explained as 'a very enthousiastic young teen'. Which put me off wanting to do anything with AI even more).

[–] lurker@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rhamph@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see they’re still offering free copies “For US Kindle readers, while supplies last.” Perhaps they’re not that popular 🤔 (per this lesswrong, there were 1000 on offer)

edit: you know… if they were really serious about the doom and gloom, wouldn’t they just offer free ebooks to literally anybody? Would their site not just have a prominent link to a PDF of all the important things we need to know to navigate this tumultuous time? Beyond the core doomer audience, I’m not really sure who the target market is for “The survival of literally everybody is at stake and action is needed now, please give me $20 to learn how”

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

from linkedin but in the comments: https://lnkd.in/p/g4VfX3SQ

chat thread

Oh I forgot to mention: apparently judges consider AI use in sentencing

How

Like if you used AI you get more months

Huh why

Because AI can magnify the reach and speed of criminal activity

Is this like how hitting someone counts more if you used a weapon?

Yes

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So this means the ai breakins will be charged harder right? This doesnt just apply to smalltime crooks right?

[–] anise@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

no, those didn't use ai, those were ai, silly

who are you gonna arrest, a chatbot?
didn't think so

Spoiler/s, obviously

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Here's a LWer being very wrong about how US politics work

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WMBgSseHJpghhma4n/we-need-a-better-theory-of-polarization-because-it-s-failing

First warning sign: "the US started becoming polarized with the election of Barack Obama"

"Affordability" won the frame for 2026, and I'm not sure I remember the last time the right talked like they are playing catchup.

uh, are you in your early 20s??? (who am I kidding of course you are)

You'd think bayesians of all people would try to avoid extrapolating from the position smack dab in the middle of a current news cycle

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

basically because the left has out-ridiculous-ed Trump on culture war issues.

You can always find a single sentence in a political LW post that shows how much they hate marginalized people.

I mean, I guess the consequences and policies associated with culture war shit did abruptly go from ridiculous to real fucking serious what with the camps and the trying to unperson trans people and the overturning Roe v Wade. Maybe that leaves the Dems (who I assume are still being treated as "the left" in this discussion) in a more ridiculous position?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

"sure Trump is renaming AI, but I saw a without context post which I didnt understand of a trans person who has 100 followers so the left is worse"

I was going to try and sneer this further but I realized that my own narrative of political polarization almost started with Clinton and I'm in my early 30s, meaning that the problem is obviously whoever the president was when the person making the argument was a child.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ever wondered what kind of workplace environment Elon cultivates? Reading coverage of Tesla's trial, where complaints were brought by Black folks who felt harassed and discriminated against, gives us an inkling.

CRD attorney Juan Gamboa asked [Judge] Borkon to bar Tesla’s counsel from contacting anyone on the agency’s witness list. He told the court the CRD had tried to reach at least four other listed witnesses over the past several days without getting a response, and that they’ve fallen "off our radar." The agency believes Tesla’s lawyers got to them too, either with payments not to testify or by talking them out of it. Gamboa wants to stop Tesla from offering to represent witnesses "through persuasion and payment."

You're going to hear a lot of coverage of this trial, I expect, due to the following antics from Elon's "hardcore" attorneys. For context, the N-word is an anti-Black slur which is, in the USA, completely unacceptable to use in court or the workplace.

Tesla’s outside counsel told the judge the N-word is a “term of respect and endearment” in the Black community. … "This trial is not about the N-word — the N-word is not on trial here," Jones said.

Huh, so what's actually on trial?

Edwards said a non-Black coworker called him the N-word, cursed at him, and threatened to beat him up. He reported it right away. A month later, he found out his managers had written him up over the incident, and he was later passed over for promotions after applying to more than 100 jobs.

Oh, that's pretty awful. That's depressingly common in blue-collar factory employment, though. I wonder if there's anything unusual about Tesla's internal culture when it comes to race relations?

The CRD’s Brett Watson told the court the evidence will show managers calling Tesla "the plantation," with some referring to themselves and Elon Musk as "slave masters," and graffiti including swastikas, "KKK," and nooses left on factory walls for days. The second witness, former regional security manager Ozell Murray, testified that his supervisor, Ray Sethna, now Tesla’s senior director of global security, told him to warn a Black Marine veteran he was hiring: "just be sure [the veteran] knows he’ll be called those words."

I was at a loss for words for a few minutes after this. Dr. Seuss and Jim Henson together could not create such a caricature of a goose-stepping bigoted incompetent business-muppet as Elon.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The man who did a Nazi salute on stage creates a very racist workplace? Whodda thunk

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

To be fair, the workplace predates the nazi salute. Does make you wonder how much the thenibb comic applies here, and how much Musk was acting like he was bullied because 'people cant take a joke' (before he radicalized into what he is now).

[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago

Fucking hell, when I was finishing up school I heard classmates joke how ~~Wernher von Boer~~ Musk was a slavedriver based on how much he pushed the engineering teams

Turns out it’s true in the most literal sense and so much worse than I could have imagined

[–] samvines@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago

Hey you know who designs and builds really safe and efficient cars? People who are in a high state of stress and anxiety because they are being slurred at under the implicit threat of a racist attack. /s

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago

that poster the same person who was stanning shitty ideas in KDE, they’re a walking warning label

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Niccolò "Ice the Immigrants" Venerandi is doing a real good job keeping me away from KDE.

(Why did I have to jump into Linux when its going through shit like this?)

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

Not like windows or mac are less fashy

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bit sad as some people I used to know at KDE were outspoken antifascists.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wherever they are, I hope they're doing well, and I hope they can find somewhere where they won't be betrayed like this.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, from a short check I think one of them is in denial about the situation.

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