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Doug Ford is an idiot. But Ontarians seem to love him.
this post was submitted on 28 May 2026
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the median voter in his base is likely around the age of 60, so it's not merely that they are idiots now, but have likely been that way for a long time.
no fucking coincidence there...
I would have to see crash and accident data concurrent with the change before I say anything.
Not the best source but this article does have some info on speed and fatal accidents.
The Ontario Provincial Police reported 568 fatal crashes in 2023, and speed was a factor in 131 (21.3%) of them. In other words, more than one in every five deadly car accidents involved drivers going too fast.
This. Higher speeds in isolation mean nothing if the design of the streets keep drivers equally safe at those higher speeds.
I mean, it’s usually Germany and other neighbours in Europe that put such forethought intentionally into the designs of roads (look up the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes for more info), but we occasionally have strange confluences over here, too
One thing Germany has is a lot more variety in speed limits.
Within a minute you can go from 100 to 150 to no speed limit to 50. But good luck convincing people to put a 50 zone on the 401.
Speed cameras are practically a requirement in Korea. People here would be blasting through school zones at 100kph otherwise. No joke. As it is, you can see rich fucks in their fancy cars ignoring them since the only punishment is a fine that they wouldn't even notice.
Bali Bali culture indeed.
You’re not gonna get me to agree on this one. I have gotten two speeding tickets for going 2km over. Thats nothing but another way to fleece and steal from the working class. We all know where the speeders and racers hang out and the cops don’t do shit
I think motorists are given way too much freedom in car-dominated cities across the globe, but at the same time, yeah, any sane person should agree that such a small deviation from the posted speed limits don't deserve to be punished the same as a 10km/h to 20km/h higher deviation; it's just not logical.
I'll admit, I've sped so much in my past, doing 160km/h on highways with posted limits of 80km/h, and there would still be people riding my bumper on occasion at such speeds. They should have punished people like me, who liked fucking around and never found out because punishments for speeding are very unequal across the board.
It's so selfishly myopic to look at the differences in fatality between 40 and 50, to look at the effects on driving speeds that these camera have, and then conclude, "This is a pointless money grab!" Like, dude, you're clearly lying to yourself out loud. The lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.
I feel like there's a middle ground between your two posts, like the speed limit should be lowered by 5 and that should be added as a margin of error. That way you don't get angry people behind you for going under the speed limit when you're just trying to not get a ticket.
I'm not sure it's super constructive to be so antagonistic, especially when the other person has a valid concern.
Devils advocate: if they are catching such slim margins they equally should be catching people going 5, 10 or 15 over of not more and actually being dangerous.
Yes it sucks to get fined for being in the margin of error, but if it was anywhere a residential or school zone I'd say it's worth it given how easy it is for a child to wander into the street and how little it takes for a car to seriously harm or kill said child.
The best solution is just better public transit so people don't feel the need to drive but getting more drivers to drive safer is a good first step
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