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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I don't know why this keeps getting posted everywhere. Workers have a lift limit the extra cost is for the extra person to handle the bag.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I'd also suspect humans on a plane will follow a normal distribution in terms of weight. The aircraft weight/loading is done on an average sized person (which used to be 75kg if I remember correctly). Conversely every motherfucker will load their luggage with as much shit as possible if it's not limited.

[–] clucose@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ah! I didn’t think about that.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If I pay an extra €50 to go from 19kg to 23kg, does the worker get paid more?

Thought not.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Time for me to say this again:

THE WEIGHT LIMIT ON LUGGAGE IS TO PROTECT BAGGAGE HANDLERS FROM INJURY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TAKE OFF OR LANDING WEIGHT.

[–] Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I had no idea, thank you

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why does a first class ticket come with a higher weight limit?

Because they wanna fleece you for every penny you have, but the point still stands that for the most part it's to protect baggage handlers. If you wanna take a dead body on board you have to take that up with the airline.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So there's a weight limit on how far handers throw the luggage around?

If you are there handling heavy items all day, you're gonna get injured. That doesn't just fuck up the workers (meaning they can't go to work) but it costs the company money too (because they need to replace those handlers).

Think of it like this, you know how the X-Ray tech has to go into a little shielded room while you are getting X-Rayed, but you are still exposed to the full force of the X-Ray? That's not because they care about their safety more than yours, it's because one x-ray is fine (what your getting), but the x-ray tech does tens, maybe hundreds a day, and that builds up to radiation poisoning.

Now replace "X-Ray Radiation" with Repetitive Strain and back injuries" and "X-Ray" with the Suitcase full of Drugs your smuggling into the Netherlands, and you get the idea.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. Can't have them hurting themselves and causing delays because the airport won't staff appropriately. Remember, safety is for controlling costs.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then why can i book heavyweight with some airlines?

Because they can mark the luggage has heavyweight so the handlers can use equipment to load the items.

[–] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Team lift, you're paying for a second guy to help load that.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Incentivizing lower weights in some bags is helpful. Ninety 19 lbs bags and ten 35 lbs bags is easier on baggage handlers than a hundred 35 lbs bags

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OSHA.

The throwers have a union to stop them from killing themselves, which means we don't give them 40kg things to break their backs regularly and anything over 22kgs they buddy lift or get a hoist or something.

Thought it was just airlines being airlines too, but this makes complete sense, don't be dicks about other people's health.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i was in favor of total weight based pricing, but this changed my mind.

may the backs of the people kicking around my luggage be in perfect health

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, went from 'you greedy mother-fuckers' to 'I am right with you fam'.

Amazed they don't explain it more, it makes them actually seem human for once.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because airlines do not actually care about their workers and just comply with the regulations half assedly. they cannot fathom compassion for human resources or assume milking it would backfire.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, airlines are people too, and among the most unionized industries.

They're both soulless and actually human at the same time.

[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I've always assumed you pay extra because multiple people have to carry the bag around after you check it, and that's harder/more dangerous at higher weights.

In warehouses, you gotta go get your lift belt and often a partner if something is over a certain weight, and you aren't covered by workman's comp if you just try to do it quickly without those, so it's a serious hassle.

Well, no employee is going to be expected to physically lift me and every other passenger at any point, but they will have to lift all of our checked baggage, so it feels like my weight matters less than my luggage's weight.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Airlines should charge a passenger based on weight. More weight means more fuel and more wear and tear, meaning higher costs.

They would make more money in America and the UK, how they don't capitalize on those untapped profits makes no sense.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the negative publicity would kill them.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it wouldn't, if the industry as a whole started pricing based on weight, travellers aren't going to start taking trains and ships.

If a minority of airlines didn't switch, they would get more passengers that would save money by going with them and would ultimately fail in the market.

If a minority of airlines switched, they would decrease costs and very few people would decide against saving money on airfair on principle.

The big airlines switching would have a new means to increase profits and decrease costs, which they love.

Yes, the media will drag them through the mud and social media would have a tantrum, but the airlines would profit because nobody is going to decide 3 days on a train is better than 6 hours on a plane.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any airline that tried this would immediately get sued in just about every country that has any sort of discrimination laws, and the airline would lose ten times out of ten.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being overweight is not a protected class in the US, EU, or England. Some states and cities have laws that do prohibit weight based discrimination.

There is no discrimination going on anyways when charging based on weight. You are contributing 300lbs of cargo and that cargo cost more than 200lbs of cargo to transport.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being overweight isn't the only source of weight variation. If a 6'4" man weighs the same as a healthy 5'0" woman, he's probably dying.

You can legally discriminate against size though.

If you're in the top 1 percentile of sizes, any and all clothes will be much more expensive than if you were in the median.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is true, but if her plus her luggage weights the same as him and his luggage, they should pay the same. If they don't, their ticket price should reflect that.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't fly much, do you? Getting through check in is a pain in the ass enough as it is, and now you want to add a weigh in and price adjustment step for every person onto that?

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't. I stopped flying a few years after 9/11 because I despise the TSA, being confined with inconsiderate people, and love road trips. If flying was what it was like in the 90s, I would be more inclined to fly.

Stand on a scale with all your bags at check-in. No issue.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah even Ryan Air tried proposing this and got roundly shunned.

Mostly because they'd lose their core customer base of Gammon export to Majorca.

And on behalf of the rest of the UK, my sincerest apologies to Spain. Please feel free to dispose of those cunts, nobody will miss them and you'd be doing us both a favour.

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