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Outcry over 'disturbing' video of off-duty police officer pinning 13yo girl on train (www.abc.net.au)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone to c/perth@aussie.zone

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This is straight up violence and coercive control. This guy cannot be treated with kids gloves.

But its interesting how nicely everybody is speaking to him in the footage. If that was someone making a citizen's arrest would the communication be that respectful? And is this a symptom of fear of authority bred by fairly onerous laws around police protection in this State? (it seems at this point in the footage he had informed them that he's a cop).

As a corollary to this incident - Just imagine if there hadn't been other people around, and it was this girls word against his. She'd be at risk of going to jail for assault of a police officer (mandatory sentencing laws)... and thats the problem with the laws protecting police.

Edit: fixed spelling of coercive.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Policing attracts abusive people.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah... right...

"These are children, they haven't learnt behavioural and emotional control yet. Their brains aren't developed.

And then when they're older it's inter-generational trauma, an excuse for all seasons!

"There were many ways he could restrain her that would not have involved the level of personal touch and force that we witnessed in the video," Dr McGowan-Jones said.

Feel free to get out of your desk job and help out then, different world when you're being punched in the head by feral teenagers

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Very curious to hear both sides of the story here, at the very least.

[–] Revolver1864@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] gtrcoi@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a legal test for excessive force?

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There definitely will be. But I don't know it. 'Reasonable person test' will surely make up a part of it.

Edit: Found this, not the kind of legal test a judge would rely on, but a good indication.

While it is not abundantly clear what determines ‘excessive force’ during an arrest, there appears to be a distinct relationship between the force a police officer may be permitted to use, and the behaviour of the person being arrested — whether the person is obstructing an officer in the line of duty, defying arrest, or being physically violent.

Andrew Williams Lawyer