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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew I made this for a reason

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I think the groundbreaking part was Dan O'Bannon’s note in the Alien script that gave us more amazing characters in Aliens.

“At the start of Dan O'Bannon’s script for Alien, there’s a note that few other screenplays contain: “The crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women.” It’s a line that fundamentally altered the nature of the film, affecting everything from the presentation of its characters to the way Ridley Scott and his team approached casting, and it was certainly for the best.”

source here

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see from the comments that apparently it was makeup. I wonder to what extent this is makeup, since after all, ALL actors on set wear make up. I have a similar skin complexion and if I sunbathe for a week I'll look like Vasquez too.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If an actor loses weight or works out to be more muscular, that's commitment to their craft.

If they lay out in the sun, that's cheating!

[jk]

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Well, to be fair, blackface is also a type of makeup

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The fact that they tanned her is not the issue. The fact that they tanned her to play an ethnicity she is not, is the problem. Especially during an era where people of that ethnicity were lucky to be typecast in something.

I know it's before this time, but Michael Sheen had to change his name to get work in Hollywood because nobody would hire someone with a Hispanic sounding name.

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[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Im pretty sure thats just a tan, but its interesting that her imsb page says "Jenette Goldstein is a true chameleon"

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I wrote an article about how Jim Carrey used greenface (very offensively too) during the filming of "The Mask", but hardly anyone cared.

He's not even an amphibian!

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Brown face? That's just a tan

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brown nose? That’s just business.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Brown finger, that's just play time.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The american obsession with melanin levels is insane. Why cant they be normal and be racist to people who live over the next hill, like us enlightened europeans.

[–] sowitzer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That’s offensive. Those over the hill have bushier eyebrows. They are totally different and meant to be hated.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Nah you guys just claim the brown ppl are "culturally different" because they're Muslim so they should leave

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think the point is that if it was important for the character to be Hispanic, they could have hired a Hispanic actor for it. Her being Hispanic didn’t have any meaningful impact to the story, so why not just let her character be white? If they did it to make the film more appealing to Hispanic viewers, then surely an actually Hispanic actor would have been a better fit. White actors have historically been given distinctly non-white roles just because Hollywood is afraid of melanin.

The history of it goes all the way back to old black and white films, with movies like Dragon Seed or The Teahouse of August Moon, which both had major asian roles filled by popular white actors. The unfortunate part is that they often aren’t respectful when they do it; It often ends up being a caricature of the race instead. Anyone who has seen Breakfast at Tiffany’s will know what I’m talking about. Or hell, there are even cases of outright blackface, like a white actor playing Othello in the 1965 movie. Many people have criticized Al Pacino’s accent in The Godfather as offensive, bordering on caricature.

If you want more recent examples, we could point at Jake Gyllenhaal playing a middle-eastern prince in Prince of Persia. Or Johnny Depp playing a Comanche caricature in The Lone Ranger. Another good example is Scarlett Johansson being given the role of Matoko Kusanagi, in Ghost in the Shell. The movie is based on a Japanese anime, and is based in Japan. But Hollywood refused to hire a Japanese actor to play the role, and instead gave it to the whitest white woman who has ever whited.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?

  • No, have you?

She was bad ass

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