Oh god please, no!
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Aaaand that's me uninstalling Firefox
LibreWolf will likely be a good replacement.
My biggest problem with these forks is they’re still reliant on Firefox itself.
I feel like we need a clean break.
I hear you and I agree, but for now it's the best we've got.
WebKit (e.g. GNOME Web, vimb, surf) is always there, and Servo is coming on leaps and bounds.
Also, for your consideration, there are:
- w3m (text-based, but supports displaying images with sixel, kitty, or framebuffer)
- Links2 (surprisingly usable)
- Dillo (better engine, but less features)
- NetSurf (better again, but you can't use a custom search engine and the JS engine doesn't seem to work)
- Chawan (text-based, but actually supports modern HTML and CSS; can display images using sixel or kitty; also supports gemini[^1])
- Ladybird (bad dev, good product)
- Stargate & Duckling (HTTP to Gemini[^1] proxies, so you can browse the web with Lagrange)
- Pale Moon & Basilisk (based on a fork of Gecko; still use XUL; may be a bit less secure, but disable JS and you might be alright)
Of course Librewolf, Waterfox, Tor Browser, ans Mullvad Browser are doing their best to resist the bullshit.
[^1]: The network protocol; not the LLM.
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Seen on Imgur earlier:
Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/zQCk3V2 (But apparently Imgur is using AI in moderation now and users complain about deleted images. So who knows if this will be gone soon.)
But lemmy taught me a couple years ago to use Firefox instead of chrome and now I don't know what to use next
Give Vivaldi a look
I also like Vivaldi.
there's still plenty of firefox forks you can use that won't go this ai route or will simply turn it off by default. Librewolf, mullvad, zen, floorp, etc.
if you want to go the chrome route there's vivaldi although for whatever reason lately it doesn't save anything when i'm using it on nixos and it's kind of an ugly bloated mess now.
I use Qutebrowser so I have none of the issues from either.
I can't stand the massive rage boner Lemmy has with AI. As soon as it's mentioned you all start frothing at the mouth. Fucking chill.
Found the slop enjoyer.
Or maybe I'm just tired of every thread being filled with AI complaints. I'm not taking sides, I'm just tired of the constant complaining.
But if you all want to keep wasting your time and energy bitching about this shit on fucking Lemmy of all places, you do you. I'm sure it's helping....someone.
I should've know better, complaining about complainers never helps. I'll go back to using Lemmy less and less cause I'm tired of all you miserable twats.
Sad to see Mozilla becoming what they were supposed to protect us from...