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(LIKELY AI) Never Argue With Someone John Brown Would Have Shot (theblackestco.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by roofuskit@lemmy.world to c/shirtsthatgohard@lemmy.world

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LIKELY AI.

Below is the response from the store owner when asked if they would be pledging to not use AI.

Listen, I've seen your messages and many like them.

We have almost 50 years experience in illustrator and graphic design, we are not >concerned with AI.

No internet stranger, especially one who has not purchased from us, gets to dictate what >pledges we make or what tools we use.

Get serious.

We've got work to get back to.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Oh come on, this is ridiculous. There are plenty of people with racist views that John Brown wouldn't shoot.

He would scalp them.

[–] florge@feddit.uk 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

(You've got a space near the end)

Thanks - Wiki linkers are the real heroes.

[–] teft@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I've found that I have to do it like this since it has that pesky ending parentheses:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist))

which gets you this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

TIL - thanks!

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really dig that, but AI?

[+] roofuskit@lemmy.world -9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is real! Present your case or keep the accusations to yourself.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't even say that is conclusively was, it's a question. My eyeballs are my source. I did message them to inquire because I'd buy their stuff.

You know what is real though? The advent of AI graphics heavily permeating the Internet and truly I don't care for it.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

But what about it in particular? I'm really sick of people saying shit is AI but they can't be bothered to explain what exactly about it makes them think things are made by AI.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure. The black and white filter pencil style drawing is really easy to get a decent result with AI. There are two specific shirts that use that on this site. Those little radiating lines out from the drawing are pretty common for AI to make. There are a couple shirts on the site with very glossy, fairly realistic humans with watercolor backgrounds that are also very common for AI to spit out. No artists are specifically listed. There is no indicator of a "no AI" statement.

Again, I'm not even specifically saying that it is, I'm asking out loud. I'm wondering why this feels particularly offensive to you. Do you have an interest in this site? I think it is all of our duties to stand up with a critical eye, in good faith, for things that we believe in. Suppressing that seems like it's probably to the detriment of humanity.

If asking a question about a product that I even indicate that I like is a problem, that seems pretty weak.

I'm not interacting in bad faith or being a hater, I'm trying to engage in a reasonable discourse about the nature of our reality. Only a fool would say that the advent of mass produced AI slop churn is irrelevant or not real.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you, pointing a finger and just saying "AI?" is not constructive in any way. I think it has a negative effect on the the web in general as it normalizes just dismissing things. I realize you are saying that was not your intent but it's the culture it engenders. I appreciate you taking the time to elaborate your valid concerns and I think that has added a lot of value to the overall discussion.

Please do update me if they are willing to admit it is AI and I will be sure to note a warning in the main post.

I know this process is probably exhausting considering how easy it is to churn out slop, but it's necessary.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I completely understand and thank you for engaging in good faith.

Definitely part of the reasoning for my actions is that it is so overwhelmingly difficult to do everything needed in society these days. Take care of kids, attend to one's work duties, fulfill social obligations, take care of one's health, find time for fulfilling hobbies, all that. And then add on top of it all the incredible work it takes to be a conscientious consumer of products and participant in culture... It becomes overwhelming.

The extra burden of providing a nuanced response to perceived AI is onerous to me. It feels heavily burdensome. I guess there's a sweet spot I should seek. Food for thought for me. I bet there's a similar chain of thought for you in there somewhere.

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The expression, the shading, the composition, the contour, the style...I've been using AI image generators since Dall-e 2. The image in the OP is AI generated, 100%.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

This shirt looks like a rip-off of this one:

https://www.abetterway2a.com/product-page/john-brown-standards-t-shirt-men-s-sizing

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The best way to win arguments is to cut their fucking head off.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If this is likely AI generated, then it shouldn't be shared in this community.

No AI Generated Content of any kind.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If you look at the comments you'll see the realization came later. That's why it's been marked.