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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The fact that you posted a link to this video from YouTube not peer tube says a lot.

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

The point is outreach to the other platform. Sending engagement to this video on YouTube will boost it due to YouTube's algorithm. More exposure on YouTube = more potential new PeerTube users. Publishing this on PeerTube is preaching to the choir. As an alternative platform, you always need to maintain a presence on the main platform so you can encourage people looking to leave.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 1 year ago

Publishing this on PeerTube is also a problem. I mentioned this in another post, but to expand, I really, really, want to like PeerTube. But:

  • Many running servers don't fully grasp the bandwidth requirements. The video I tried to watch in that post got "popular" (800 views) and it took 2 minutes to even get the progress bar to load. People will leave.
  • The federated nature is even more disjointed than Lemmy. It feels like a bunch of different sites still, which makes it feel like less content.

IMO PeerTube could be great, but it has a lot of shortcomings that aren't solved by adding features and fixing bugs.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Or at least publishing links to both would look better.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe, not what you think it does, though

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (19 children)

The main value of youtube for many of us is the enormous video collection, which is impractical for anyone else to duplicate. Need to fix an old washing machine (I did, recently)? Type in the make and model and there's an instructional vid. It's unfortunate that Google has exclusive control over such a resource, but here we are.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe a silly idea, but what about a P2P-based video hosting! Hear me out:

We have more computing power and bandwith in our homes than ever before. We know that sharing data and files via P2P works, is resiliant against attacks, and scales really well.

No server costs mean that people could support creators by seeding the content to other peers. One cool thing about that would be seeing how you are making a difference, in real time.

[–] boramalper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

PeerTube started as being P2P based, hence the name. :) However, due to technical challenges associated with it, they dropped support for P2P streaming in 2023 (see the link for details).

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difficult part is not the software or even the hosting. It's more about the network effects and the ability to let users monetize uploads, which in turn creates vast potential for abuse and fraud, which in turn has to be addressed by burning stupendous resources. At a certain point people stop wanting exposure or "making a difference" for their own sake, and instead want to get paid in genuine coin of the realm.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, people still need money. So P2P would not solve that bit, but at least the donations can go directly towards content creation rather than having to cover server costs as well.

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[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

A lot of people, despite using a federated reddit alternative, will think of any reason to discourage the use of peertube I've noticed. It doesn't need to REPLACE youtube, that's basically impossible. You can use Peertube WITH YouTube. "Does it do anything different than youtube?" You can control what gets deleted and what stays up. "That's the only thing? It needs to do more." You can livrestream with it, and why would it need to do more than youtube? It gives you fucking CONTROL back in your hands! This is all about putting the people, back in control of the internet! The p2p aspect of peertube makes this the best competitor a community has to these giant companies with their world burning server farms. Why is this so hard for people to not be fascinated with having an option you can run with old PC hardware?

[–] podbrushkin@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“Gives you control” - you post video. It gets federated to another instance. Congratulations! You can’t delete your video.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

Dont use that setting? Its your choice.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Sometimes, I think that peertube would work better as simply being a different section of a personal/private website. You know how some sites hosted their own videos back before youtube became "the only place to post videos"? Gametrailers, Machinima, ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, etc.

Federation helps with discovery, but not much beyond that, I think.

[–] sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Joined PeerTube last month and have had great success with it in terms of as a platform and place to share art / content, though of course the views have been low.

I'm sure there is a megathread elsewhere but would love to see an acceleration of folks adopting the Fediverse. My talking point has been to sort of sell Fediverse alternatives (Lemmy, Pixelfed, Mastodon) as superior to other big tech alternatives out there (such as BlueSky and Flashes). We are either at the vanguard of a mass migration or just migrating while no one else is intending to, which I guess amounts to the same thing!

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

If any of the top 500 youtube channels joined peertube, things would surely change. Unfortunately a few of those have started their own video platforms e.g Mr Beast has his own.

I'm sure if a few of the top youtube channels of the biggest countries joined peertube that would also give an important push to peertube.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These apps need ulterior uses.

Most know Matrix as an alternative to Discord.

has it replaced Discord? No, and it isn't likely to, buuuut Matrix is still a swiss-army-knife for other chat protocols via bridges, so it has its own use beyond Discord.

It's still useful, even alone.

What problem does Peertube solve beyond not being Youtube?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

What problem does Peertube solve beyond not being Youtube?

Content creators can be in total control of their content and the platform, while still being able to reach the wider audience on the Fediverse.

There’s also features such as being able to replace an already uploaded video and for some, they would be happy not having to play the “algorithm game”.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A place to keep your videos in case of YouTube taking it off their site.

[–] sinnsykfinbart@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right now, this is the only use.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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