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To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll repeat what I said elsewhere about this debate. You probably wonder "so what should the rules be to include an athlete for women's sports? Surely there must be some rule". This is understandable but please realize that the transphobes who are pushing this aren't concerned at all with the specifics. They're not even interested in women's sports. They want to remove trans women from public life altogether. Not just sports but everywhere. Intimidating trans athletes into obscurity is just their most recent tactic.

So please remember that there is no test that will satisfy the transphobes. There is no fair rule that can be agreed upon, because the transphobes will always keep moving the goalposts. This gets extremely complex. There is no use in debating these people. They will debate forever, because the actual deep down motivation is disgust with trans people.

Save your energy. Don't debate transphobes.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yep, heard someone complain about Khelif and I asked them if we should have disqualified Phelps considering his genetics give him all the advantages and if they believed we would have complained about Khelif 20 years ago and if they believed that men who's testosterone is under a certain level should fight in the women's category. That was the end of them complaining.

[–] flerp@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

50 bucks says they didn't listen to a word you said and are still complaining about it, just in online echo chambers instead of to you

[–] Yambu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do women want to fight Imane? Probably not.

Do I want to fight Tyson in his prime? Probably also no lol

I'm not trying to make her look like Tyson but they are both outside the norm just like 99% of top athletes.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Do I want to fight Tyson in his prime? Probably also no lol

Do I want to fight Tyson right now at almost 60, also no lol