I am not a vegan but oat milk lattes are the best lattes. They are creamy, rich with flavor that's perfectly aligned w the coffee, lower in calories & more sustainable than classic dairy.
Everyone should try them once at least.
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I like oatmilk in general. Oatmilkshakes are also awesome and oatmilk is way better in cereal
Too many people tried soy milk or almond milk and it has unfortunately turned them away from dairy alternatives. Oatmilk leagues above all the rest.
Have you looked at the ingredients of oat milk?
It's water with vegetable oil and just enough oats for the taste.
I'm lactose intolerant. What's your point?
My point is, that oat milk lattes are not the "best" lattes, they're oily not creamy, and that the flavor of oats does not align with coffee.
I'm diabetic and have to avoid lactose too, amongst many other things.
Oat milk might be a fine beverage, if you're into oily watery horse food, but a substitute for proper milk it is not.
Milk is just watery fatty cow food with some extra steps involved.
Not really. It's a mammalian excretion that has literally been refined over millions of years to deliver an infants nutritional requirements.
I drink milk, but milk isn't superior to oat milk.
mammal milk has specific ingredients that are meant to specifically feed infants of that animal. So its often high in fat and has specific things that are meant to be digested by that animal. Breast milk from a human has special ingredients that help digest the high lactose content and those ingredients are not in other milks.
Now Oats have been designed over years to be digested by humans and other animals. They propagate by being consumed and then travel to other areas post consumption. The nutrition in oats and other vegetables is mostly there specifically to drive animals like us to eat them so that we propagate them.
Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.
If you were stuck on a desert island and could have an infinite supply of either it would be an absurdity to choose the oat milk over cows milk.
It's true that cows milk is intended for calves and it's probably not advisable for an adult human to consume exclusively cows milk, but it's an absurdity to claim that cows milk is less nutritionally valuable than oat milk.
Oats have been domesticated by humans over a few short millennia because of their ease of cultivation and longevity in storage. Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality. Besides which oat milk doesn't contain much in the way of oats anyway.
Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.
In terms of ecological footprint it really isn't. There, cow milk or any other animal milk is waaay worse than oat milk.
Furthermore, doesn't oat milk usually have a higher shelf life than typical animal milk like those from cows?
Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality.
As far as I know the one thing that cow milk has in terms of better nutritional quality compared to oat milk for example are high quality proteins, covering all essential amino acids. However, if you are not dependend on that intake of protein by drinking a glass of milk each day, due to other protein sources in your diet, then there is not really much more value to cow milk. Since soy milk has a higher amount of protein than oat milk, one could also prefer that over cow milk, which would still lower carbon emissions. Not as much as with oat milk though.
animal milk is waaay worse than oat milk.
I don't know if this can be substantiated
lower in calories
not everyone wants that.
No way this is real.
The waiter would have said "Non."
I'm a french vegetarian living in France after living 6 years in Scotland, France is years behind on the diet inclusion issue, I was shocked how difficult it was to find a place to eat out in Paris, way too many cafe/restaurant/etc.. gets defensive and refuse to serve you if you don't have the "historical diet" (whatever that means) of france, and a lot of them don't offer any "common alternative diet" options on the menu. And it's not better outside of Paris.
Then of course there are some great places that try to include everyone regardless of their diet, and they are increasing in numbers, but they are still the exception rather than the norm which is a shame.
If you ever goes in Paris and looking for a fully vegetarian classy restaurant, I recommand "Polichinelle", it's a bit on the expensive side (~50 euro/person), but it's high level cuisine, and for a special occasion it's really worth it.
as they should. i dont like american culture, where some people seem to think it is ok to take an item of the menu and alter pretty much everything about it.
btw: if you want to be treated like a king in france... look up history
I mean if it's for a meal I get you but being mad about different type of milk for coffee is crazy
Do they even have it in the shop? Should a cafetier store every type of plant base milk in their pantry just in case someone ask for an off-menu variation? It is not either the job of the waiter to run at the shop to find oat milk.
in case someone ask for an off-menu variation?
Stuff like a plant-based alternative shouldn't even be "off-menu". The problem already starts here.
Coffee is plant-based. It is not that weird that a plant-based version of the un-veganised version of a plant-based beveurage is off-menu.
We wanted to order pizza and I told my girlfriend (who is Italian) that I might order Pizza Hawaii. Her reflexes kicked in and she bit me.
So tasty that she had to get at the residuals
Did they mention that milk comes from cows and not oats?
You can indeed create milk without requiring a cow.
True enough. But not from an oat.
Also from oat.
juice from oat. milk from titties.
So if we would create milk in a lab, which is chemically identical to e.g. cow's milk, but without any udder secretion involved, that wouldn't be milk?
What is milk if not just fatty water with a couple of nutrients?
Our concept of "milk" goes beyond mere mammary gland secretes.
So if we would create milk in a lab, which is chemically identical to e.g. cow’s milk,
That's just it. You can't.
I can't no. But other people can.
We can already create meat in a lab. Milk is coming as well.
See for example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daphneewingchow/2025/02/24/first-lab-grown-whole-cows-milk-to-debut-in-the-us/