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[–] Beastimus@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, here's my perspective. I hate Gen-AI (specifically and solely the generative kind), I think in nearly 100% of its use cases there are more effective and more ethical solutions. Its really sketchy to me for any artist to be using or supporting AI with/in their work. My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run. So, good on them for doing environmental work, my hangups will entirely be on the ethical side of their AI usage.

[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me the problem with AI generated thumbnails in any environmental or scientific blog is that it makes me doubt the whole text might be a AI Hallucination and I just immediately click out.

AI images just kill all credibility for me.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

It goes double if they're using generated infographics with garbled text. There was clearly zero proofreading, and that absolutely means the article wasn't fact checked either.

The bar is so low, it's underground, and they're still tripping over it.

[–] Frjttr@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, iOS produces them on-device 😂

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how much CO2 was produced training the AI that was put on your device? How many slaves spent how many hours generating data to train that AI? How many slaves cut down how many forests to extract the materials that how many slaves turned into the chips that ran the training process?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And how much CO2 was produced training the AI that was put on your device?

I mean, fuck Apple and fuck AI. But at some point "I noticed your picture was rendered with software that uses electricity that may have come from a fossil fuel power source, so I'm going to disregard environmentalism carte blanche" is just reactionary anti-environmentalist rhetoric couched in smug liberalist language.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the environmentalism memer is being petty about the small issues instead of making the discussion about the big sectors of personal consumption like heating/power source, nutrition and mobility

And yes, AI in creative sectors bad

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Also who's to say the person isn't running the AI model locally off of renewable energy?

You don't have to use a centralized service, shit like ComfyUI exist

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Because this is what we need to be focusing on, not environmental responsibility from large polluters.

We are continually approving oil, gas, and coal projects, yet let's focus on the contradiction of environmentalists existing in a system where their very existence causes them to emit, regardless of how careful their choices.

Don't worry about this, it's fine

It's just sitting there menacingly next to the Athabasca river.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 1 year ago

Insert the comment about how too many leftists care more about doing nothing wrong than doing anything good

[–] relianceschool@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's more like a false dilemma, claiming we can only focus on or solve one or the other. Our largest focus should be the largest polluters as mentioned, but it's also ok to want to challenge the use of AI in messaging about social action.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not an issue of focus, but cohesion and messaging. Focusing on internal moral purity alienates people and divides us against the larger enemy.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

This meme has strong, "Any environmentalist that doesn't unalive themselves, isn't trying hard enough." vibes.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago

i detect ai image, i leave. evn on lemmi on my fav subs. evn if it's from nicies peeps i kno.

(i say, while being an LLM enthusiast)

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago

Also when they’re not vegan.