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Ugh and many people have made memes and such of this but its so annoying. If your policy says its to old then just have that in the message. Implying its the wrong one just pisses people off. You have a password manager and you know its the right one but you do the forgot password link and then when you put your password manager one in the truth comes out as it says you can't use your current password. I swear non of the actual IT people from my heydey would ever do this. I feel like its the cs/mba types that bring all this bs.

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[โ€“] BetterDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair, I totally neglected to recognize that's what you were here for and focused entirely on trying to get the concept across. I don't usually pay much attention to which community I'm reading, I just stick to local for tech stuff and all for everything else. I barely customize the experience at all.

I'm not a security-specific person but I am a programmer, so I will just pass on one tiny nugget of wisdom on the original topic: Yes, what bothers you about the messaging in the UI is possible without compromising security, it's just more complicated and requires a bit more scrutiny and due diligence on the part of the engineering team. However, "possible" and "reasonable" are two very different things in the eyes of a developer. We are typically constrained by tight deadlines, moving targets, and competing priorities, and that often leads to doing the simplest thing that solves the problem now, rather than the elegant and full-featured thing that will make everyone happy. My favorite reference on this topic is SMOP, (Small Matter of Programming) which is basically the idea that I just spelled out. Yes, what you want is possible, but it is more difficult than most people realize to do right.

[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Oh I get that but it frustrates me both in personal life and work life. One thing that I have found is quality teams have been tossed out and that type of thing is tossed onto, if your lucky, they customer reps and they generally are low tech techies at best and are put under pressure and such as not to take it into account. Also I feel many places no longer eat their own dogfood. This is a big reason we have the enshitification we have. Its not the only thing but its definately a part of it.