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im not subscribed to the prison abolition thing fully but i want to learn. what happens to mass killers? how would they be reformed in this ideology if they would be? how do u make sure they dont do it again? is the official stance that mass murder is not inherent to the human condition? thanks

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[–] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the future becomes less forseeable by the day.

[–] SadExe123@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not even about foresight per se. It's about a very simple question. Let's assume taht we even are in the primary stages of socialism, which means some vestiges of capitalism are still residing in all of us, and as such, also crime. What do you do with criminals, thiefs, etc.? Reeducation through labour of course, or in other words - prison. Only when the material and superstructural causes for crime to be commited are gone, and as such, crime withers away, only then can prisons be done away with. So don't hit me with "future is less forseeable" as if it were some mystical thing, instead of a question that can be worked out scientifically/logically.

[–] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that I have no idea how long the "forseeable" future is, especially with things as they are. It's not mystical. I didn't even disagree with you, I'm just saying it's a bit of a vague term. We may have different ideas as to how slowly or quickly these things with get resolved.

[–] SadExe123@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 months ago

That's true. A forseeable future can only be deduced what we have already seen, and as we have not seen such a society yet, and have no data on it, who's to say?