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New sodium-ion battery skips mechanical cooling with 97.9% efficiency
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this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2026
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according to their product page, the charge rate for a single cell seems to max out at 3C, which could be a pretty big obstacle to grid-scale deployment. unless that's a problem that can be fixed with a different arrangement; i'm not too up on how to build batteries.
This wouldn't be an obstacle for grid, only for mobile/moving applications.
Well, on a grid scale if you've got a 100MWh battery and you want to charge it at 3C, then you're looking to find a spare 300MW out on the grid somewhere for 20 minutes.
That's not impossible, but you'll buy that 100MWh a lot cheaper if you're willing to get it over the course of a few hours. For example, buying power in the middle of the day when there's excess solar, to then drop it back into the grid in a one hour burst during peak times in the evening for 10 times the price.
That kind of thing is where the battery will make the most profit, so slow charge rates don't really matter.
i think the big issue is asymmetry. they charge at 3C, but they discharge at 8C. so you need the significantly overbuild.
Ambri had a massive molten salt battery that was cheap for grid storage. They went broke. Sadoway gave a great lecture on how actual solutions are fighting corruption and old money.
I assume 3C is a 20 minute charge?
1 C is defined relative to 1 hour for full discharge and 3 C means a 3x faster discharge rate (full capacity can safely be discharged in 1/3 hour, or you can discharge 3 cells sequentially in an hour). Good lithium cells tend to be above 5C, can reach 10C for peak load or if cooled.
For a large enough battery it doesn't really matter, but for dense portable ones a lower C rating means you have to discharge from more cells simultaneously to maintain a given output. That makes it more complicated, and you have less headroom to the battery's maximum Watt output if you need to accelerate a car hard suddenly.
And here I was confused why coulombs were being used as a charging rate…
We need to abandon the "use a letter for this unit/property" crap and accept that the alchemists and accountants had it right.
NMC cells typically operate around 1-2C and LFP cells 1-3C. If you want to achieve 10C then you're probably gonna have to look at LTO cells. All of these are lithium-ion chemistries but they each have different characteristics.
(for context most my knowledge of these cells are from single cell +5000 lumen flashlights :)
The comment I am responding to is about charge rate, not discharge rate
For most batteries that's the exact same rate
Sodium ion batteries are asymmetrical, pushing charge current hard can drive the anode negative enough to deposit metallic sodium causing formation of dendrites which destroys the battery