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I'm not talking like the laws of physics, yes those exist in nature. I'm talking about manmade laws.

Laws are a social construct! They mean nothing unless someone enforces them!

In the book Lord of the Flies, when the kids are on a desert island with no adults, there's some inertia initially where they still behave as if adults are watching. Until it dawns on them that nobody is there to enforce the rules and they can do whatever the fuck they want, then there's chaos.

People still behave as if the law is just some natural force that exists regardless of enforcement. No matter how many times they see the law broken without consequences. No matter how many times cops ignore crimes or prosecutors drop cases they shouldn't or judges make a bad ruling, some people still have this blind faith that when something illegal happens, it will be punished. Or some even seem to think people in power physically can't break the law.

I had a fight with someone cause they were posting some shit about how ICE "can't" enter houses without a warrant and I replied with the meme about how robbers can't legally take your stuff without your consent. Sorry but ICE can and do do things the law says they "can't".

And sorry, but Trump can and probably will interfere with elections and stay in office for as long as he lives and invade other countries and commit full on genocide if nobody stops him.

And people act like it's an inevitability that Trump and the other fascists will face nuremberg trials. Sorry but it's not an inevitability. The nuremberg trials happened when other countries successfully invaded Germany and put an end to the regime. It's not going to happen automatically. It's only going to happen if there's revolution or war. Maybe a newly elected government will prosecute these clowns, but I doubt it.

The law is made up. It doesn't exist in nature. The only thing protecting your rights is a social contract. It is not inevitable that justice will be served. This isn't just in the Untied States. All over the world, laws are enforced inconsistently. Nothing guarantees the law will work as it is supposed to.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Stealing is wrong, it's a 4000 years old social contract that we put on a piece of paper because we're smarter than animals. They have their own mind though that we cannot comprehend, which may explain why we don't know yet how they enforce it fairly.

Also we rely on cops to enforce laws the same way ants do it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wrong is a social construct as well. What one society believes is wrong another believes is right. The concept of personal property to steal in the first place is not universal.

Is it wrong for me to "steal" food, or is it wrong for you to hoard food and let me and my family starve?

[–] unknownman@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wrong is completely subjective, yeah. Now, it's objectively better if stealing is considered "wrong", though.

I'd say that's dependent on how you legally define stealing and who is stealing what.

Stealing depends on a society to first define personal property, and that can be a tricky thing to do with any sense of equality.

[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 days ago

You are wrong.