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[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's just so bad, "we won't show what we're doing because it's tiresome to cover it up" is what I read here.

[โ€“] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you want to look at the thread I was referring to (looked it up): https://airvpn.org/forums/topic/56799-audits/

I think what they say makes sense. I read it the opposite way: How do I know any service with an audit really is as described the day after the audit concludes?

Most audits (as far as I'm aware) will tell the company maybe a week in advance that they are coming in to do the audit, so it'a not like surprise visits I don't think.

I 100% think it comes down to trust (and some accountability being that their code is open source). Audits feel like a gamed system.

And being open source is a way of showing what they are doing.

[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You underestimate how costly it is to run services like that, your network is what it is, and it would be even costlier to change, who's going to change it all, hired contractors? I mean hired people already have fulltime jobs in the company. Then scrape all the traces that there were logging (amongst other things)?

It's not a Hollywood movie where you just "unplug the log machine" and hide it in a drawer.

[โ€“] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Maybe you are overestimating it.

I wouldn't truly know because I'm not a wireguard expert or anything.

That said, a "log machine" that you describe could just simply be a portable executable with root access on the vpn server machine. With this root access it could probably easily see what network connections are being made and potentially sniff them.

Maybe I'm wrong though. I don't think it'd be easy to develop such an executable, but once made it could be portable, probably.

Unless you are a skilled network engineer/software dev in the field telling me it's not possible, then sure I shall believe you.