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Plants are fed to animals, and then those animals are butchered.

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[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You kill 1000 plants, feed 50 animals. Then kill those 50 animals to feed about 10-15 people. If you remove the animals from this equation, you can feed 30-40 people using those 1000 plants. Basically, if people shift to plant based diet, not only you are reducing harm done to animals, but plants too.

Veganism means you are reduce harm and pain caused to every living being.

Ps - obviously those numbers and proportions aren't exact, but I am sure I gave you a better perspective.

[–] MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How many insects and small rodents are killed? Also, what about the pesticides that seep into the soil?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Argument still in favour of veganism.

If we are putting animals as food in the equation, we need more plants, means more insects, rodents etc die too. If we don't rely on animals for food, we don't need as many plants, less rodents, insects die.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago

If accurate (the idea, not the numbers), that sounds reasonable.

I'd argue there's much more to it that just calories in/out though.

Harm reduction should ideally account for as much of the system as possible.