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Birth rate and hedonism? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by orc_princess@lemmy.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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Hi everyone, I'm only interested in hearing from comrades so that's why I thought this could be a good community to post, but if you think this is the wrong community please direct me somewhere else!

Today I was talking to someone somewhat close to me, he mentioned countries like Germany have an aging population and a falling birth rate and I pointed out that I believe it's connected to the cost of living crisis (especially with the expensive energy imports and with governments happily destroying the welfare state) and my friend said that he doesn't buy it and that in his opinion it's hedonism (?).

I find that kind of argument unprovable and moralistic, but it caught me off guard and I figured I'd take this as a learning opportunity. Have you heard this kind of argumentation? Am I right to assume it's just a reactionary thing? Is this worth engaging with, even if it's just for criticism, and if so how? Or should I just move on? I can't cut contact with him but I can just change the topic again if it comes to that lol.

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[–] mao_dun@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that birth rates lowering to only approaching replacement rate was just a phenomenon that happens across the board/world at certain levels of economic development, a significant factor being access to family planning and an array of intersections to do with women - women's social expectations in child rearing stagnating behind other advancements, women in more intensive careers, women deciding to start having children (thus timeframe is shortened for more kids) at later ages, single mothers being more prevalent - women having more equality, choices, and autonomy is good, but access to these is only made available thru technological and economic development, as well as design/implementation of social structures meant to facilitate an easier time to parenthood - access to affordable childcare and maternal/paternal leave being just some of the visible parts of that iceberg.

unholy run on sentence sorry

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting, makes sense to me.