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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What primary happened in 2024? Also how did it work out in 2016 when Bernie was running and the party was effectively sabotaging him by backing Clinton instead.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh right. I forgot it actually happened because it was such a sham it might as well have not happened. That primary was the equivalent of a democratic election in Russia, which is to say the outcome was predetermined and the rest was just getting the apparatus to show that outcome. If you truly believe that primary would've changed anything you're delusional.

Edit: I'll also add that the "vote blue no matter who" pretty quickly went to running Cuomo as an independent instead of giving full support to the primary winner, Mamdani. All the slogans of unity and standing together apply only when it's the candidate the establishment wants.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Edit: I'll also add that the "vote blue no matter who"

Who are you even talking to? Talk about false dichotomy

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

I brought it up as further proof that the primaries don't really matter because the primary doesn't exists as a method of finding the best democrat candidate, it exists as a tool of conformity to squash dissent against the establishment candidate. The "Vote blue no matter who" is the slogan used after the primary to tell people to put their differences aside and vote for the candidate who won the primary. But clearly the "no matter who" part has a secret addendum, it's actually "no matter who as long as it's the establishment candidate".

Had Mamdani lost the primary and ran as an independent the establishment democrats would've been up in arms about him sabotaging the chances of the primary winner, who in this case would be Cuomo. But because Mamdani won there's no outrage from the establishment about Cuomo running as an independent and getting backed by democrats, because that's who the establishment wanted to win in the first place. Basically Mamdani had to beat the establishment candidate twice because there's a double standard in place.