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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean yeah? As a PC gamer what are you supposed to use? Fucking... Windows?

I know some people still manage to tolerate paying Microsoft for an operating system that serves popup ads, popunder ads, inline ads, bundles spyware, bundles adware, bundles malware, and literally spies on you. They either manage to filter all that out or tolerate having to spend time turning it off or mitigating it every two weeks/months when an update introduces more of it.

They angrily cope. They say things like "what is so hard about just clicking Close / Ignore on a few buttons!?" when this is pointed out. But they grow fewer and fewer.

Macs are mostly valid but expensive. If work doesn't pay for one, or you have another big hobby that makes Mac a necessity, buying one for gaming is a bit silly.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

paying Microsoft for an operating system

To be fair, I haven't paid Microsoft for my OS...ever. And it's not even piracy.

I got a licence for free through my university when I was in uni. And Microsoft seemed happy to let me keep using it and even upgrading it. I started on Windows 8, upgraded for free to Windows 10. If my PC didn't have a processor that seemingly arbitrarily they decided can't run Windows 11, I could be on that today.

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

you did pay with your usage data.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Same. Got XP and Vista from the university, license for Vista allowed to update to 7, 10 (never used 8)... Now I use LTSC + massgrave activation, but technically I have a 10 license.

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Often OEMs pay for windows if you buy a prebuilt or a laptop. So you might pay Microsoft indirectly.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 1 points 1 month ago

I've had two PCs over this time period. One came with a pirated copy of Windows (bought overseas) and I later installed a legit copy with my uni's licence. The other I transferred that same licence across to after building the PC myself.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apple actually have shown that they can make cheap computers like Macbook Neo, but I doubt they want to make computers that allow freedom of Linux, hell even Windows. Gaming is also non-existent on Macbooks, because for some they want to use their own graphics API (Metal), although some kind of a translation layer (MoltenVK) exists, but I have no idea how good it is.

[–] lostbit@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

fyi: you can install linux on a mac

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but don't they work just on M1's mostly, and not everything works?

[–] lostbit@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

m1/m2 currently. m3/4 in the works so yeah not the latest release cycles

most things work tho, im using it as daily driver for software engineering just fine