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[–] Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately a strong military is necessary to maintain peace

It might sound contradictory at first but you should consider that people will always disagree. And if you and your neighboring country disagree and they have 20x more military power than you, they might be inclined to use force to solve your differences

The only thing that allows you to have a civil and diplomatic discussion is the assurance that war is the worst of the options. As we see today, strong military nations are not afraid to abuse weaker military powers.

I understand the hate towards the production of weapons, and I'm with you. But defunding the military is a simplistic, utopian argument that unfortunately would not work in the present time

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately a strong military is necessary to maintain peace

Peace is maintain by seeking peace and avoid conflict not by spending billions of dollars in weapons that in most cases are designed to attack and kill other people.

they might be inclined to use force to solve your differences

And that's why you want to cut the military budget to 0 so that there's no leverage to use force against others. According to your logic people will always disagree? So ban nukes and weapons before everyone kill each others, putting a gun in everyone hands is going to lead to a bloodbath not to peace.

As we see today, strong military nations are not afraid to abuse weaker military powers.

Again cut the military budget to 0 so that your nation doesn't abuse weaker military powers.

I understand the hate towards the production of weapons, and I’m with you. But defunding the military is a simplistic, utopian argument that unfortunately would not work in the present time

You sound like you are making an apology to war and authoritarian nations. You are not with me and you are not with the human race, you are against it. What's utopian is to believe that you can achieve peace by spending Trillions of dollars in war. What's simplistic is to believe that you can't do without a government tossing billions of public money into military weapons.

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm very curious as to what your suggested course of action would be if you were to "cut the military budget to 0", and then another nation with a strong military uses their military to abuse or murder the citizens of your nation because they disagree with your nation in some way...

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't need military budget to defend yourself. Governments need military budget to gain power and attack others.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Sorry: I'd mistaken you for a person using considered-reasoning.

Ideology doesn't reason.

Its symbols are comforting substitutes for reason, & they're enough, for it, right?

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