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'I Killed Pons Years Ago' — Epstein's boast about ending Clean Energy research emerges in federal files (www.ibtimes.co.uk)

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On the morning of 1 October 2009, Epstein wrote to Seckel: 'regarding cold fusion. i killed pons years ago.' When Seckel pressed him for details — 'How did you kill him?' — Epstein replied with specifics, writing that 'the origidnal senate funding came out of congress, and wayne owens senator from utah ,, i was there an argues against, it, had ot meet with the head of the mormon church.'

The target of Epstein's claimed intervention was Stanley Pons, the University of Utah electrochemist who, alongside Martin Fleischmann, announced in March 1989 that they had achieved nuclear fusion at room temperature. The announcement generated global headlines and the prospect of virtually limitless clean energy. Within months, mainstream physics institutions moved to discredit the findings, funding was withdrawn, and Pons eventually relocated to a French laboratory funded by Toyota.

Wayne Owens, the figure Epstein names, was a Democratic congressman representing Utah's 2nd district from 1987 to 1993 — Epstein refers to him as a 'senator,' though Owens served in the House. The congressional dimension of the cold fusion controversy is documented: the University of Utah sought $25 million (approximately £18.8 million) from Congress to fund further research, and the state legislature had separately appropriated $5 million (approximately £3.75 million). Brigham Young University, governed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was also entangled in the dispute through physicist Steven Jones, who had been conducting parallel cold fusion research. Epstein's reference to meeting the head of the Mormon Church aligns with BYU's institutional role in the congressional funding fight.

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[–] stan_stanminson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Srry I'm a little ignorant. What roman idea are you talking about?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

No worries I was being cryptic on purpose.

IMO if the French had done to Marie Antionette what the Romans did to Jesus, there would be no billionaires today.

edit: I'm suggesting the french should have crucified the rich instead of cutting their heads off.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I find that highly unlikely

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A conspiracy of the rich and powerful killed ceaser because he was too popular with the masses.

All they were protecting, was their own power.

There was a very famous play about it all. It's seasonally appropriate to go read it, or better yet, see it performed.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm suggesting the french should have crucified the rich instead of cutting their heads off.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Romans didn't crucify the rich, quite the opposite.

None of the conspirators who killed Caesar were crucified, they mostly died in the civil war that Octavius started when he revoked the assassin's amnesty, which they held for a short time, but most had been driven out of Rome by the populace.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

IMO if the French had done to Marie Antionette what the Romans did to Jesus, there would be no billionaires today.

I don't know how you misread this so thoroughly but congratulations.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I recommend reading some actual history.

Mostly because your entire premise is, just be cruel in the execution and somehow that fixes things.

Excessive cruelty fixes nothing, especially cruelty of the past.

That and the French cut off a fuckload of rich asshole heads, it was called the Reign of Terror for a reason.

But back to the main point. Cruelty that someone else experienced several hundred years ago, does not motivate someone who doesn't care about others.

What does scare the fuck out of rich assholes is the idea that the mob could come and take their shit. Taxes and seizures. And maybe a little guillotining on the side, but they won't actually fear that until it starts happening.