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Nope I would have to triple or quadruple my costs for housing to move to an urban environment. Also then I would be surrounded by other people in close proximity a lot of the time. Currently I pay less than 1k/mo for mortgage, and there's only about 3 or less people per acre of land surrounding me. Costs for 1 car amount to roughly $800/mo including payment, insurance, and fuel.
You may not need a car in the urban environment. Of course it would depend on the city. If it was Tokyo, a big yes for me. You'll get less space but being able to walk to get everything I need is going to be good for my health in the long term.
If this is a con for you instead of a pro, you may be lost.
I had a hard time understanding why this was even included until I got to the end and realized it's on the con list
I'm sorry, but have you met people?
I live in the suburbs, in a neighborhood and even then my neighbors are too close. Kids across the street out playing basketball at 11:30 at night. Neighbor behind my house burns their yard trash on any day that's halfway decent to be outside, meaning my wife can't be out there due to her asthma. A family on the next street over have parties several times a year where music is blasting so loud I can hear it in my bedroom until 2am. Even with these annoyances it is still a much more peaceful place to live than when I was living in apartments in the city.
In my experience living in a small urban center has way less annoying neighbour interactions than in suburbia where people have the illusion of isolation. Kids play basketball at the designated basketball courts by the community center, a neighbour burning trash woukd have the fire department 5min away come over asap (although wood based fires are allowed and fine). Most people party at the bars. No hoas, no tiny tyrants, way less street racing at 3am, less car traffic in general.