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Sharkord - an open-source self-hostable Discord alternative with voice, video, and real-time messaging. (sharkord.com)

submitted 4 months ago by recklessengagement@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Came across this on the r/selfhosted community. Still very much in the alpha stages, but it's already got a Docker image you can try out for yourself, or try out the demo server.

Tried it earlier today, couldn't get the voice/video chat to work right away on my self-hosted setup but the real-time chat was very snappy. Looks promising.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

(and has E2EE)

Normally my policy is "E2EE or GTFO", but the concept only applies to a subset of Discord use cases. A good Discord alternative needs to handle the same variety of use cases as Discord.

E2EE for a public forum makes no sense. Lemmy doesn't have E2EE either, obviously. That's an absurd idea.

Discord is mostly used for public or semi-public spaces. I'm in Discord servers for some of my favorite games and game studios, for example. The only barrier to entry is clicking a link, which is usually publicly advertised. I'm also in some semi-public Discords that are locked behind a membership of some sort (like Patreon), but those are still full of an arbitrary number of people I do not know. It's not a private space. E2EE would be counterproductive.

That said, I have a few friends who habitually DM me on Discord, and I'm like "dude, I know you have Signal. Use it FFS". One thing I like about Lemmy is that when you go to send a DM, it literally warns you against using it for DMs:

Warning: Private messages in Lemmy are not secure. Please create an account on Element.io for secure messaging.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Normally my policy is “E2EE or GTFO”, but the concept only applies to a subset of Discord use cases. A good Discord alternative needs to handle the same variety of use cases as Discord.

E2EE for a public forum makes no sense.

Totally valid point, especially w.r.t. ease of onboarding for public usecases. Sure would be nice if it functioned (optionally) as a private forum as well. Seems like a lot of commonality there and covers the DM case and the 'semi-public' but discord is totally logging everything case. One can hope, but I agree, first things first.