this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2026
606 points (96.8% liked)
Leopards Ate My Face
10166 readers
6 users here now
Rules:
- The mods are fallible; if you've been banned or had a post/comment removed, please appeal.
- Off-topic posts will be removed. If you don't know what "Leopards ate my Face" is, try reading this post.
- If the reason your post meets Rule 1 isn't in the source, you must add a source in the post body (not the comments) to explain this. If the reason is in the source but is tedious to find (e.g. in a lengthy video), you must add an explanation for where it is.
- Posts should use high-quality sources (for a rough idea, check out this list), and posts should retain the title (if one exists) from works like news articles, videos, etc. You may (but need not) edit your post if the source changes the title. (If you're only using an excerpt from an article that's otherwise not about LAMF, you can use the quote in the title.) Other types of posts should have a title which accurately, relatively neutrally describes their contents.
- For accessibility reasons, an image of text must either have alt text or a transcription in the post body.
- Reposts within 1 year or the Top 100 of all time are subject to removal. Within moderator discretion, this doesn't just include reposts of the exact same media but also includes e.g. a secondary source telling basically the exact same story as another that was already posted.
- This is not exclusively a US politics community. You're encouraged to post stories about anyone from any place in the world at any point in history as long as you meet the other rules.
- All Lemmy.World Terms of Service apply.
Also feel free to check out:
Icon credit C. Brück on Wikimedia Commons.
_portrait.jpg){kind=link}
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Stupid and/or selfish, racist, etc.
Everyone should be given the opportunity to make amends.
Unless they’re ICE
Sure. My statement isn't without nuance. If someone commits a crime, if they go along with hate speech, support a fascist regime, or impinge on peoples' rights in the name of a government, there should be legal consequence.
But even then, and I understand this is the internet so I have to spell it out nice and clear for everyone, if someone has paid the price, done their sentence, and is honestly, and truly, and really reformed, that should be taken into consideration. That doesn't mean they can have every comfort back, or people need to forgive them, or anything else... but to remove all hope of redemption after someone has paid for their actions is bleak, dark, and does not embody humanist spirit.
In other words, we don't have to be nice, but we also don't have to sink to their level.
That said, if they do it again, they can go fucking die in a hole. Respectfully.
No, even ICE, if they truly turn their backs on them. If they're never allowed to change then they can never change. That's stupid. What's the point of doing anything if we force our enemy to fight us forever anyway? You can't win (unless you kill them all).
I'll take any ally we can get. Hell, they could even be the most useful allies. They're on the inside. If they see that it's evil and decide they want to fix things, they can feed information or sabotage it from within.
This doesn't meant we totally forgive them. Justice means they're held accountable for their actions. However, this can be done after we win. Until then we need to leave the door at least ajar, because we're going to need as many allies as we can get.
Yeah, all right. If you can find someone who has served in ice, somehow doesn’t deserve to be jailed for a very, very long time, and then somehow totally reverses their insanely backwards thinking, then okay, they can be redeemable by serving on the front lines.
Even ice might someday rejoin society. They should never again be allowed in a position to deprive people of their human rights but it’s possible