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Libya: The forgotten victims of NATO strikes - Amnesty International
Do you that think those strikes wouldn't have happened without NATO?
Yes, but even if it would have happened anyways the world would still be better off without NATO.
That's a pretty difficult claim to support because it requires you to make some pretty insane assumptions about what would have happened without NATO.
How so? Didn't NATO commit crimes? The fact other criminals exist doesn't mean one fewer criminal gang isn't an improvement.
Which NATO country do you think couldn't have committed all those crimes without the rest of NATO?
None of them. I think they are all equally capable of committing the crimes, but a gang is more dangerous than individual criminals acting on their own. So the gang [NATO] disbanding is a net positive.
It's not difficult (except for Europeans and their settler counterpart) to understand that the world would be better off without NATO, your whiteness. "If it weren't for NATO then it would've been anyone else!" isn't the convincing claim you think it is. The burden of supporting such chickenshit non-claim is on you.
You now all the countries that joined NATO would still exist without it, right?
Yes, what's your point? A terrorist organization ceasing to exist makes it slightly more difficult for European imperialist countries spearheaded by the largest imperialist, European settler-colony to collaborate and carry out their imperialist endeavors.