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[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I actually don't think Trump is behind this one. hear me out:

there are two factions emerging within MAGA. the Evangelicals and MAGA-leaning neocons are heavily Zionist, so there's no way they'd let this happen. the second faction are the alt-right/groypers/white nationalists, who simp for Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer. Gen Z belongs overwhelmingly to this second camp, as illustrated by the Young Republicans discord leak.

Trump himself has no political views other than his own power and personal vengeance, but I'd still put him closer to the first camp since he's a Boomer, and he's in Bibi's pocket. so I think whoever pushed for this is probably part of the same cabal that posts Nazi dogwhistles on DHS's Twitter - part of the second camp.

and that second camp will become the future of the Republican party, unfortunately.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm floored we are getting pro zionist nazis this go around.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The original Nazis were Zionists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

They wanted Jewish people gone from Germany, and Palestine was far enough away to make them happy.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Huh? This is such a bizzare take. So people looking for safe exit in US due to fascist government are nazis?

Ironically, if you actually read the link, zionists were generally against this.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So.. uhh.. you're accusing WW2 jews (not modern) of being nazis, but not directly, not indirectly, not by making a comment/explanation by yourself, but rather linking to a wikipedia page that has no mentions or explanation behind your thought process?

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think WW2 era Jewish people were Nazis, that's a thing you invented by assuming the relation I described was symmetric. Why would it be symmetric???

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me just ask you this - do you think Hitler was right?

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

No, he was a fascist. I'm glad he killed himself, it's what he deserved. All fascists deserve death.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

heavily Zionist, so there’s no way they’d let this happen.

I don't see a difference between zionist and nazi, so yes way.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Zionists believe in the supremacy of the jewish population. Nazis believe in supremacy of the white race, but also exterminating jews.

It's easy to see how both systems of hate can be used to goad lower class sects into eliminating "the enemy" instead of visualizing the class war. There are very likely much smaller camps of rich elites that play both sides, but outside of that, the two groups are distinct. Trump has supported both before, since both have sucked up to him.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Trump is merely the vehicle being used by the likes of Thiel. As soon as he croaks or becomes too much hassle, JD will take the reins. There's others, too.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

A lot of Zionists are just as antisemitic as the nazis, save for replacing exterminationism with deportations to Israel. Others are clever enough to say "Jews are genetically better with money than the Goyim" rather than "Jews are greedy".