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I've been thinking about which is the better way to shop to maintain privacy. The way I see it there are pros and cons to each but I can't decide which is ultimately better (and of course it depends on threat model and who you’re trying to hide from)

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Pro

  • Retailer doesn’t need your address/phone number/email address to complete a transaction
  • If you pay with cash, your bank doesn’t have details of what you bought and can’t sell it to data brokers

Con

  • Most/all stores have security cameras (often with facial recognition). You can mitigate it with masks or other coverings but I’ve seen a few stores now locally that don’t allow masks or raised hoodies

Online

Pro

  • Your shopping is kept from prying eyes as far as security cameras go

Con

  • If you buy something to be delivered, the retailer usually wants your address, email and phone number, and (unless using a gift card) your credit card info
  • Even if you buy something to collect in store, most still require a phone number which can be hard to make private if burner phones aren’t legal where you live and/or the retailer won’t accept VoIP numbers
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[–] spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One thing that's worth keeping in mind: physical retailers may have cameras, but they (in general) rotate their recordings and don't provide an API for law enforcement. By contrast, any data that an online service gets is probably stored forever, possibly across multiple companies. If you do pick up the online package at a physical store, then you're losing most of the benefits, so you also need to provide an address.

That being said, much of China and some of the US have significant outdoor surveillance camera networks. These usually do provide law enforcement with real time, AI search, and may keep recordings for a very long

For me, as a Canadian, I'd consider physical stores more private, maybe putting on generic clothing and a mask if it's really important. If your city has its own surveillance system, that might be different for you. Though really, in that case, you should be more concerned about pushing for the cameras to be removed, or failing that looking into moving elsewhere: it is not sufficient to have privacy only online, only from major storefronts.

[–] freedickpics@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

One thing that’s worth keeping in mind: physical retailers may have cameras, but they (in general) rotate their recordings and don’t provide an API for law enforcement.

They may not give law enforcement direct access but they absolutely upload and share their recordings with third party companies and other retailers. I don't know how long they keep it for but storage space is incredibly cheap these days