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This would come after the abolishing of the RCMP.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would we want this? Provincial cops get their own little corruption bubbles.

What I really want, is a police police. Non LEOs who are only LEOs to LEOs.

This is what would clean up polices scandals. None of this "we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing" nonsense.

People who have an incentive to arrest cops and no incentive not to.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How does decentralizing the police automatically result in lowering standards? The ndp and liberal provinces can be pushed to increase their standards.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It does so be allowing massive differences between forces, just like happens in the US with any topic that becomes about "states rights".

A few places will do excellently, and a large portion will immediately be hit by massive corruption.

This almost always leads to situations that rich people can abuse that poor people cannot. The rich can go to areas that they know certain things won't be caught, and then go back home to safer areas etc.

Basically, it just allows for the lowering of standards just as much as the raising of them, and unlike the federal level guaranteeing a decent federal minimum, provincially this would not happen.

We can actually already see this with the OPP lowering their hiring standards and generally being worse than the RCMP.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could keep the RCMP in those conservative provinces.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nice in theory, but then you're still not getting any benefit and just allowing those other provinces to eventually get the same problems.

The big problem is that this isn't a solution to anything and what we really need is a police police that only governs the police and has no incentives to cover up their abuses.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You’re ignoring the potential for higher standards, we need to decentralize the police since consolidating their power in the hands of the few is dangerous.

It’s easier for people to convince their mlas to improve the standards instead of going all the way to Ottawa for the same conversation.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure what the argument for consolidating being dangerous is exactly? Are you imagining the police of rivaling provinces fighting each other at times of civil unrest?

It’s easier for people to convince their mlas to improve the standards instead of going all the way to Ottawa for the same conversation.

Sure, but what is more effective, is having a police to police the police.

Before any of that, I think thats far more important.

If the police arent following the standards already set, what hope is there of them following new standards?