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Almost as much as protests voters helped Trump do all this. Almost as much as the both sides are the same rhetoric helped Trump do all this.
Which state flipped based on protest voters?
Do you have a source that shows protest voters didn't have any impact?
At least as much evidence as you have that they did.
How many voters voted in 2020 compared to 2024?
https://votingrightslab.org/2024/11/25/how-state-election-laws-shaped-voting-patterns-in-2024/
Huge changes in voting law between those two election cycles
Great info. All the more reason to encourage as many people as possible to get out and vote against the party that is making it difficult to vote and vote for the party that wants to expand voting rights.
This really shows that the GOP wins when less people can vote and that discouraging people from voting specifically helps the country move farther towards a fascist dictatorship.
Idk if you're familiar with the phrase "proving a negative" or "burden of proof" but you should maybe try looking them up and learning a little bit about why you're wrong
There's a .ml after your name. Nothing you say is valid or taken seriously in any way
That's a fun way to get out of answering a legitimate question: ad hominem attacks.
Centrists do that when they know they have lost an argument. Dismissal and condescension.
"You're from place i don't like" is a dogshit argument and you know it
Any impact protest voters might have had could be outweighed a thousandfold by nonvoters. Why call out protest voters unprompted as a cause of an election swing when their impact is a drop in an ocean?
Half the country didn't vote. If 1% of them leaned Biden they would still have had more impact than protest voters, and I feel like the percentage leaning Biden might have been slightly higher than 1%.
I feel like I see protest voters called out 300x as much as nonvoters and I can never understand why it's so disproportionate.
Gee, if only there were some way democrats could have got those voters back on board. But they were too insignificant to matter until centrists needed someone to blame for the results of their unwillingness to represent people not named cheney or netanyahu.
When the electorate is polarized, you win by energizing your base to get more people to the polls. Abandoning your base one vulnerable group at a time not only fails to curry favor with the fascists that centrists desperately want to befriend, it also depresses turnout from your base as well. But since centrists like moving to the right and don't want to stop, they treat their positions as sacrosanct and it is the voters who must capitulate. After all, our politicians capitulate by example so frequently.
If they were too insignificant to listen to, you don't get to blame them. If they are significant enough to blame, they're kingmakers and you should have been listening to them.
"Whatabout protest voters, whatabout third parties" lol quit blaming other people for your failures
People who chose not to vote for Harris are just as much failures as the Democratic party. Take some responsibility.
Democratic party could have won in a landslide for speak up for their base who didn't want a genocide, but no, they wanted it and stuck to it.
Democrats are 100% to blame. And fuck you and everyone who tries to put the blame on people for having a conscience. If they had any semblance of representing their base, they fucked it up themselves.
Democrats put themselves in a scenario where Trump would win and you're surprised he won?
Yeah bro those people must be feeling so amazing about themselves and their pure and righteous conscience everyday that Trump runs rampant and destroys the country even more, and don't even get me started on trans issues
AT LEAST GAZA IS SAVED THOUGH :) fuck off and grow up. You are both to blame because you both are fucking idiots. Democrats should've done a better job and split with Israel, because dipshits like you needed more of a reason to vote against obvious nazism
At least democrats didn't have to abandon unconditional genocide support. At least they didn't have to follow the Leahy law. They'll make up every excuse under the sun to block progressive legislation, but straight up ignore the law to sell weapons for genocide.
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Don't play stupid