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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

People sending him anti-Semitism (or talking about him using anti-Semitic language is fucked up, saw people do that sadly). Really hope nobody here did that.

Still dehumanizing people he disagrees with. And refusing to understand the people he disagrees with. (But he could have made those points without calling others zombies, or do a weird 'arabs dont get western freedom' bit).

And I dont get why he thinks we are allied with re random piece of shit in Lebanon because we said his trolley problem thought experiment is fucked up, and that the genocide in gaza should stop. (Also the annexation of the west bank).

You can be against different groups of assholes at the same time. The guy is splitting so hard.

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Really hope nobody here did that.

if anyone from here did then they’re fucking banned, but I need better evidence than none and a standard for anti-Semitism that doesn’t include views that are just anti-Zionist and anti-genocide with no hatred behind them

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago

Someone claiming to be the "cartoon guy" showed up at Woit's blog to explain himself. He's an edgelord Reddit atheist, the type that we'd ban tout de suite after he leaves one slur-filled comment that we delete.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He named the file after Woit, so either he was trying to be cute re naming, or he made this himself. Which is a wtf discovery. No idea why he doesnt just show emails.

The naming itself is already hitting the libel part. Imho.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago

I hope no-one here emailed him, more in a “don’t debate fascists” way and also a “it’s a waste of time anyway, Saa is set in his ways and is probably unable to be deprogrammed” way.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone here would be the sort to do that. I think we have at least an implicit kind of "prime directive" against engaging at all and also our mods have done what feels like a good job keeping us free of rabid Nazis and their sympathizers. Like, I'm not going to claim it's impossible and I fully believe that someone somewhere sent him some truly vile shit as a result of this whole affair, but I would be legitimately shocked if it was any of our regulars.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah same. According to Scott it was a 'Peter fan', so doubt it was somebody from here.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 0 points 10 months ago

missed sneer opportunity from Scott: instead of “peter fan,” could have done “peter-phile”. Lurk moar, scott