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[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When the fuck did that happen dude ur insane

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wow! Hosting terrorists on your stream is so perfect! So is blasting propaganda music with flags saying "death to the jews" on them!

The "hosting terrorists" part would be referring to the ~~Houthi soldier~~ Yemeni he interviewed on stream. I personally don't have a problem with having controversial people on for stuff like interviews but the problem was more that Hasan was trying to make him seem more appealing and only giving him soft-balls.

  • The Houthi guy was talking about guarding captured foreign merchant ship crews and making them dance and Hasan was talking about how much fun that must have been.
  • Hasan later cut him off and redirected when he started talking about how the knife on the shelf behind him can't be sheathed until tasting blood.
  • Hasan ran out of prepared questions pretty quickly so he started asking him about what his favorite anime was and what fast food they had available there. He was just generally trying to make him seem relatable.
  • Someone in chat wanted Hasan to ask about if they would release the hostages if peace or a ceasefire was negotiated and Hasan something like "I'm not asking him that, of course he would".
  • He later described it as "like talking to Anne Frank".

The "blasting propaganda music" refers to him showing a Yemeni propaganda music video on stream to a guest and viewers. The lyrics were mainly about all the weapons and war supplies they wanted, and what they would use them for. It honestly was just bizarre and left everyone confused since there wasn't really context for showing it.

I love how people (rightfully) called out Pewdiepie for jokingly paying guys to put "death to jews" on a sign, but when hasan does it unironically its okay

Not sure if the "Death to Jews" thing is referring to something specific or just that Hamas is very vocally anti-Israel.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
  • The kid isn't a Houthi. They flew out civilians to the boat as a sort of tourist attraction.
  • He was trying to humanize a human, oh no how terrible.
  • While the kid isn't Houthi, they've been incredibly clear their interference is entirely based on solidarity with the Palestinians getting genocided. They are attempting to apply pressure to stop it, which I think is a good thing (even if it might disrupt the global flow of treats).
  • Yemen was being genocided while he was a child, and the kid is a survivor of the genocide (one the US funded and facilitated). The comparison isn't perfect, but apt.
  • He says every damn day how antisemitism isn't OK, and he doesn't agree with the flag. Do remember Israel is the one cynically hiding behind Judaism for the actions of their state. This isn't an excuse, but it is contextually important for why Yemeni people might hold antisemitic opinions.
[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The kid described himself as a "Red Sea Pirate" and when asked more about his role, his translator gave us "His answer is, he is a Yemeni who stands with Palestine". Hasan said he was media-trained, so I would say that's a rather meaningful evasion. Also worth noting that the Houthis were (and I think still are?) designated as a terrorist group by the US, so I would expect he wouldn't want to claim membership outright. If nothing else, it could risk a ToS violation for Hasan.

I'm not saying that he should be demonized. In case I wasn't clear, I personally think an interview could be valuable if done carefully, but interviews can also be disguised advertisements, and I don't think Hasan was trying to be neutral in it. It would have been cool to know more about the kid's personal motivations and goals considering he would probably share them with many others. But I guess part of my critique is that we didn't get much exploration of that and it seems like a squandered opportunity. Instead it was mostly stuff with little substance that distracts from the possibility of a moral judgement, and it seemed intentional to me.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

The US designated Nelson Mandela a terrorist up until 2008. I don't give a fuck what the US labels as a terrorist organization. It's a label meant to terminate thought and allow them justification for all inhumane actions against them.

He isn't a houthi, that was discovered in the interview which changed the tone of the interview. Please stop regurgitating bad faith talking points istg.