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[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hopefully now a better future for Palestinians and Israelis is ahead.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Remember kids, you already know what Palestine without Hamas looks like: is the apartheid regime of the West Bank!

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Once the leader who murdered 30,000 Palestinian civilians is brought to justice, maybe.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

1 died, 10 others will be born. This will continue until the Palestinians have their land and rights back.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Having their land includes the depopulation of all the jews in Israel? Coz that's what Palestinians in Gaza are advocating for, and I don't see that happening anytime soon (or ever).

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It never has. It means equal rights for Palestinians

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Equal rights as in inside of Israel? As in 1 state solution? No way can they live without murdering each other at this point.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Inside of historic Palestine, yes. Zionism has been the obstacle to peace as far back as British Occupation. Works by Ilan Pappe and Avi Schlaim, two Israeli historians, can discuss why the One-State Solution is the only real solution. The foreign affairs article also does a good job detailing why

Peace Process and Solution

Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the depopulation of all the jews in Israel [is] what Palestinians in Gaza are advocating for

That's exactly as true and accurate as saying that "The Jews in Israel are advocating for the ethnic cleansing of all the Arabs from Eretz Yisrael". Such a phrase of course is antisemitic as fuck, and no reasonable person would say it. Just like your phrase is racist/anti-palestinian as fuck. Which makes me think you're not a reasonable person.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I wrote that poorly. Of course not all Gazans want the expulsion of all Jews out of Israel. I meant the Palestinian authority in Gaza - that is Hamas - is advocating for that.

Until some other authority rises up in Gaza (or forced to be there, like putting Fatah there), I don't see an end to this conflict.