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"I hate these damn bike lanes. Screw your studies. I'm not reading that"

"Cut gas taxes. I see no reason why I should pay to support public transit"

"Fuck speed limits. I'm proud to break the law"

This sense of entitlement is insane.

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[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm an Ontarian driver. I hate speed traps, and I will purposely go out of my way to avoid them, or otherwise figure out exactly where the device is so that I can slow down for it.

I'm sorry, but for all the folks that want us to drive 40 everywhere in "community safety zones"... you're living in dreamland. We all have places to be.

Have barriers and well-designed crossings. Fast cars can't hurt pedestrians if they aren't on the road to begin with.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

we all have places to be

I'd rather be alive instead of being hit by some shit driver like you trying to win a few seconds

People grossly overestimate the time they think they win by going a bit faster.

You probably would've saved more time not posting here

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Simple. It's not a few seconds. I can save 20 minutes by doing 15 over, during the day, going the speed limit get caught at every red light. During late night, with no traffic going 15-20 over, I get all the greens. Literally saving me 20min. It's no estimate. There's a fucking clock on the dash.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The time saved is due to the green lights and less congestion. The time saved due to the speeding is miniscule in comparison.

[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean you want to time lights to be green if you go the proper speed, then? As in, none of this "traffic calming" bullshit.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

No i was pointing out that speeding isn't the main factor speeding them up. Providing alternatives to driving is a better solution to congestion and traffic. Each lane of a road has a shockingly low capacity when compared to other ways of getting around.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

20 minutes vs a human life. Fucking pathetic to even consider...

[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is, sadly, a tradeoff between safety and efficiency. If we truly valued safety above everything, we'd ban cars altogether and return to the 1800s. But we have accepted as a society that a small number of accidents is worth the benefit of rapid transportation.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are other places that still use cars and have way safer roads than us. We are accepting half assed safety because thats been the status quo in north america for decades.

[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago

Fair enough. We could learn quite a bit from Germany, for example.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"I have places to be so fuck the safety of children and families"

[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should endeavor to, idk, not have children and families out on the street in non-designated crossings? Just a wild thought. XD

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Children and pedestrians are getting hit in crossings. The reduced speed limit is both to give more time for drivers to notice crossing pedestrains and also to reduce the severity of injury in the case of a collison.

Maybe we should endeavor to idk not have massive metal boxes exceeding speed limits next to where children are walking to school.

[–] timberwolf1021@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Crossings can be easily improved to reduce this by adding buttons and flashing lights, and having a delay on the walk sign so cars have plenty of time to stop before anyone goes onto the road. These are not hard problems to solve.

"Massive metal boxes" – ah, so you're one of those car-hater types. Gotcha.