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Jazz, Rock, Disco, and Rap, at minimum.
eeeeeeeh.
I think death/tech death is where the blues influence starts being more vestigial, and it starts borrowing more from classical. Even Polka (what is a blastbeat but a fast polka beat?) Are the diminished scales really from blues? Do the blues musicians play straight 32nd notes the way classical musicians do?
From an evolutionary standpoint, it definately does, since blues to rock to sabbath to metal, but death metal onwards really feels distinct. Especially symphonic.
I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘
first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden
I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen.
My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands.
If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message.
It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless.
Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden.
Folk metal folk metal
Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU".
I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect.
Click the link first.
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I haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview.IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history
"Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM
Dubstep has strong roots to Jamacian Dub. https://youtu.be/NUOeHoLCisw. Except for the dub guys, are actual wizards making all of their effects with analog technology.
Also reggea and dancehall come from Jamaica as well, incredible such a small country having so much influence.
Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few.
what's your most recent favorite album?
Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished.
nice, thanks for the recommendation!
No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!.
Rock Steady too
Blues?
It's assumed here that rock is derived from blues
EDIT : Blues is blues, which is obviously black.
Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory
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Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones.
cite reference
How much time do you have, ha?
This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough.
So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa.
Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify.
https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk
Funk, Blues, R&B, Reggae, Bebop, Swing...
Techno came from black kids on Detroit listening to Kraftwerk and then exporting that sound back to Germany
They lived in Belleville, but no one knows where that is.
I do, it's in long island.
Punk
The band known as "death"
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL71xICgSKYzlEYreXb96htKm8sacZIa-0
I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore.
I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street.
is this a meme about race, or a racist meme?
About race fetishism and commercial exploitation, I believe
by only white people