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[–] You@feddit.org 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, Uschi. It's not the time for this kind of negotiations. It's time to set an example and send a message. After the countermeasures take effect, we can still send him flowery messages (in simple language) and an old Airbus with a bow.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. At the very least call his bluff!

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 11 months ago

He thinks he's playing it cleverly, and all foreigners are humbled by his superiority. It's pathetic.

And then there are people like von der Leyen who actually prove him right. *sigh*

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 26 points 11 months ago

Have they learned nothing from the last rounds?

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We need to elect politicians willing to take a hard line against the US.

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Problem is, there isnt anyone who isnt either in washington's or kremlin's pocket

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't negotiate with terrorists.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If the terrorists have the biggest military in the world, control over all major digital services, a secret service that knows when you last have pooped AND have enough force for a literal occupation already on your territory... well... things get more complicated

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

'Complicated' is certainly one way to put it.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We have nukes. We can set them off should they invade. Better nuclear war than fascist rule.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, here we differ: I will happily live under a fascist ruler if the alternative is dying in (nuclear-) fire.

I suspect this is something you learn if you grow older, have family... and have witnessed actual combat...

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mate. Fascists put everyone they hate in camps and torture them to death. Better nuclear war as that is quick and relatively painless.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Mate, it's only a problem if you are a member of the groups the traditional fascist hates, sooo...

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once they've finished with these groups they'll move on to other groups and continue whittling down their ingroup until there is no one left.

Also nice job showing that minority groups are an acceptable price to pay for your cowardice.

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once they've finished with these groups they'll move on to other groups and continue whittling down their ingroup until there is no one left.

Well, it worked out pretty well for my grandparents, so I am not that concerned

Also nice job showing that minority groups are an acceptable price to pay for your cowardice.

This would also apply for anybody born in the "developed world" if you think a bit about it

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Well, it worked out pretty well for my grandparents, so I am not that concerned"

That's cause the Nazis were defeated.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 12 points 11 months ago

Appeasement always works, right?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Each day, I'm hating von der Leyen more.

[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That's what some people want... Not saying I like her. But Russia, China and now the USA want Europeans to be divided on our perception of European politicians.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Yes, they all want us to vote for the far-right populist candidate instead.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 11 months ago

I see your point, but I don't feel divided about the EU; and "feeling divided about politicians" is basically the definition of democracy.

And if you didn't catch my drift, von der Leyen's track record has not been very good for years.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

God forbid we get decent politicians that arent deep diving in corruption and brought to power in shady backroom deals...

[–] the_wiz@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago

Well, those spawn from time to time... but they are normally honored obituaries after an "unfortunate accident"...

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Saps. Dupes. Easy marks. Etc...

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

DOUBLE REVERSE TARIFFS.

And 1% permanent tariff every time he does this shit.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well because the EU realises that if you increase tariffs then people pay the price (or variety of goods they can buy comfortably decreases)

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 21 points 11 months ago

What the should do is tax their fucking techbro companies already. People don't pay for Instagram and google, companies using their shitty spying ad networks do, so it would be killing two birds with one stone.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

That’s a mistake.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!