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Pennsylvania officials this week reported that two unvaccinated residents died after being infected with measles, with Gov. Josh Shapiro stressing that vaccinations could have averted the deaths.

But the announcement quickly came under fire, as a clash erupted between Shapiro, a vaccine-promoting Democrat, and U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a Trump administration appointee with a history of raising alarms about established vaccines. Kennedy said in a social post the deaths "may even have been altogether fabricated."

Kennedy's attack echoed statements he made last year, when three measles-related deaths were recorded. Kennedy questioned whether one of the children who died was killed by measles.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I'm old enough to remember when the US was a country that led the world in research, science, space exploration, health... and wasn't an arrested development fascist hellhole run by insane clowns.

Sadly, that should also tell you how old I am 🙁

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As soon as the USSR collapsed, America went back to its 19th century roots.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I... I need to sit with this one for a bit. The idea that the Cold War might have been better for everyone is not a position I'm prepared to reckon with.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is, sadly, a pretty reasoned position among some political analysts. Having the USSR as an easy counterpart to point to forced the US to actually bother with addressing social issues and not totally allowing employers and the rich to run roughshod on society.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Having the USSR as an easy counterpart to point to forced the US to actually bother with addressing social issues and not totally allowing employers and the rich to run roughshod on society.

Not just the US either. You could lump most of Europe in here too.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

9/11 was the final nail in the coffin

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You and me both. There were still plenty problems. But at least there were one or two things you could be proud of. As opposed to..... nothing.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The US was never a great country by any stretch of the imagination. But it was headed in the right direction - slowly. There was hope. Now hope is gone: the country is officially as dumb as a sack of bricks and getting dumber by the minute. And most people don't know that, but dumb ends with a B...

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep. Being unable to treat people different from themselves as animals under the law, really broke a lot of people. So obsessed with continuing it through any loopholes or systems they could implement. It cost us the labor movement and Manufacturing. So much science and culture as well. Finally even our ability just to maintain the lives we've had. All so a few ignorant insecure people with no personal achievements of their own to be proud in. Can take pride simply in the conditions of their birth.

So normalized and accepted. That a lot of culture was Rewritten and woven into it. It's why despite living in the midwest I despise most modern country music. Suburbanite sock puppets pretending and singing about thank god they're a country boy, or how good the country is, or how great it is to be from the country. Unvarnished pure processed jingoism. And nobody bats an eye.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I refuse to let go of hope, if that makes me delusional, so be it.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because you think the first clown was Dubya? 🙂

He was the first properly, certifiably, proudly stupid president. He was also the first openly fascist president. But he was far from the first clown. That honor rests with Reagan.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

If you really want to go back in time, let's not forget Andrew Jackson.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

yeah back when it was just an efficient fascist hellhole run by cruel bureaucrats.

The US has been the evil empire for longer than any of us on this site have been alive. It was evil before my grandparents were born.

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

They used to make movies with scientists as the heroes. Of course, that was mostly because scientists created the atomic bomb that was seen as ending the WWII.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Hmm, interesting. Didn't Alex Jones basically have all of his everything ripped away from him for making similar claims about Sandy Hook? I say we give RFK the Jones treatment.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

How hard I pronounce the F in “Fuck that guy”

Same as the covid deaths that "didn't count" because of comorbidities.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everything this administration says is altogether fabricated.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

This is our chief health dude. Yeah.

My favorite comment on this, "What in the never-nude is going on here?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cybrauiga0w