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[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 71 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Scientists typically declare an El Niño when sea surface temperatures in a key area of the Pacific are 0.5C or more above the long-term average.

Current measurements show that they are well over 2C above normal.

Latest forecasts from the Met Office suggest that this warming could exceed 3C later this year as El Niño nears its peak.

This is fucked. We’re so fucked. I don’t see how we undo the damage to our environment without millions or billions of deaths and displacements.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really wanted to look into the claim made in the article:

The World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) says there is "no evidence" that climate change increases the frequency or strength of El Niño events.

However, this is an ongoing area of research and debate for scientists.

As far as I can tell, there is some nuance going on here that will be easily misleading.

  1. What they are saying is that climate change doesn't make for worse El Niño events, nor more frequent - the ENSO mechanism that causes them happens regardless and itself has not changed due to climate change

  2. What they're not saying here but other places do note: The baseline hotter climate of climate change DOES mean that they are worse because the background temp is already hotter, also it's believed that the hotter climate causes a "tipping point" into an El Niño more frequently

So alas, either way you state that, there is room for someone to pipe up and be all "nuh-uh!".

Definitely one of the things where sound bites makes it worse.

[–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you, I was confused by that, but your explanation makes sense.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I kinda appreciated the article in that it made me go look that up and learn something. lol. I'm glad it was helpful to post :)

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

At what point will these scientists upgrade El Niño to El Hombre?

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Fun Fact. Named El Niño by Peruvians because effects were strong in December. Have heard it is a sarcastic term, equating conditions that cause large destructive storms to the christ child bringing gifts.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago

El Viejo

(Señor does not mean Senior)

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. This is literally the nicest the weather will be in the youngest generations memory for life, as they get older shit will get even worse far faster.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

It's not living memory, it's strong than any records going back 600 years.

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

……so far.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

they are calling it super el nino

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought they would call it El Hombre

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do they ultimately team up and and fight against Mecha Oil Industry?

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So do I need to buy snow tires or no

[–] x74sys@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Climate change will make winters more extreme as well, at least for now.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Canned goods and 12-bore shells would be a wiser investment.

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've kissed mermaids, rode the El Niño

Walked the sand with the crustaceans

Could find my way to Mariana

On a wave of mutilation

Wave of mutilation

Wave of mutilation, wave

Wave

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is it called that? 🤔

[–] TRAHR@quokk.au 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

More specifically the fishermen noticed the waters warmed up around Christmas, and El Niño refers to baby Jesus, because the event happened every few years around Christmas time so it was a way of saying “that weird Christmas time warm water weather events us fishermen noticed first”

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