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Palden Yeshi, a Tibetan monk and teacher from eastern Tibet, has reportedly been sentenced to six years in prison by Chinese authorities for teaching the Tibetan language to local children during school holidays, according to a report by the Dharamshala-based independent radio station Voice of Tibet (VoT).

He was a teacher at Karze Monastery in Tehor, Karze County, and was arrested on May 17, 2021, while serving at the monastery. According to sources cited by VoT, Chinese police suddenly arrived at the monastery and detained him without prior notice, forcibly taking him away.

Following his detention, authorities did not provide his family with clear information regarding the reasons for his arrest or the legal basis for the charges against him.

Sources indicate that the primary reason for his detention was his efforts to teach the Tibetan language to more than 300 local children during school holidays. The classes were reportedly organized for young students from nearby communities who wished to learn Tibetan reading and writing. Chinese authorities are believed to have deemed these voluntary language lessons illegal.

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In related news, China bars Tibetan government employees from religious rites and family funerals.

Tibetans employed in government positions have been strictly forbidden from engaging in religious practices. While they are technically allowed to visit major religious sites such as the Jokhang Temple (Tsuglakhang) and the Potala Palace during Losar, their presence is limited to sightseeing purposes only.

They are expressly prohibited from offering prayers, making ritual offerings, performing prostrations, or displaying any other forms of religious devotion. Authorities reportedly warned that such acts would constitute violations of Communist Party discipline.

The restrictions extend into private family life. Government employees are said to be barred not only from participating in public religious ceremonies but also from attending last rites, weekly memorial prayer services, and cremation rituals for their own deceased relatives. A Lhasa resident told TT that even the traditional seventh-day prayers for the departed cannot be attended by those in state employment.

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[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

AKA cultural genocide.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's what it is. It is the purposeful drive to homogenize Chinese empire under Han culture and language and erase the existence of other races their culture identity and history.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Who says China is an authoritarian regime? You can't prove that. /s

[–] bazo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Just saw a post about their social credit score and lots of comments telling how 90% of their population is very happy and very supportive of the government. Idk if they are bots or people believing this.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

to be fair the social credit score as it is imagined by westerners with AIs tracking your every move to make a number go up or down that determines your standing in society is fiction. What does exist are two separate systems; one for creditworthiness like all creditworthiness systems around the world and another system that leaves you on a blacklist if you intentionally don't pay off your debts. that system can actually prevent you from taking high speed rail (among other things i can't remember), and some people who are not very aware of the world may have gotten into debt, didn't notice, didn't pay their debts, got blacklisted and only noticed when they tried to take the high speed rail somewhere.

to be fair to critics of china too, this (meaning this lemmy post and other political persecution up to possible genocide) is absolutely terrible and inexcusable. i sincerely detest nationalism, but that's what the ccp leadership wants, using many means, and I can't square that circle.

I'm sure the blacklisting system has been abused before too. i just don't interact a lot with chinese news and the chinese internet, and i might not even be able to check if i did try. i know there was that boxer who beat up martial artists who was on the blacklist system, but I don't know if that was from debt or from persecution. i know the general media vibe here in the west was persecution, but there's no way I'm going to trust vibes about that.

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the social credit score as it is imagined by westerners with AIs tracking your every move to make a number go up or down that determines your standing in society is fiction.

No, it isn't fiction. It is real.

Every Chinese citizen gets a score, to which points are added or deducted depending on individual everyday actions.

The system rewards citizens based on their accumulated "score," which basically reflects their alignment with state-approved values. A high score grants valuable incentives and preferential access to public services. For example, citizens with good credit may be exempt from paying deposits when using public hospitals or libraries, receive discounts on public transportation, and benefit from streamlined processes for certain international visas. Conversely, acts like running a red light or jaywalking can result in public shaming and a loss of points.

Based on this social credit system, the Chinese population is divided into 4 classes of citizens, depending on your score.

There is a documentary by a French journalist and his (Chinese) wife who were living in China's capital Beijing. The documentary has been made in 2023, but there is an edited version from 2025 (I watched the film back in 2023 and also the 2025 version; as far as I remember, the 2025 edits reflect the role of AI in the system).

Here is a YT link: Life Under China’s Social Credit System: A Dystopian Reality?

Here an alternative Invidious link: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=p19nYrjZ1dQ

The documentary lasts 52 minutes.

@bazo@sh.itjust.works

@Archangel1313@lemmy.ca

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I just read more about it, specifically here: https://thechinaproject.com/2022/02/03/how-chinas-laws-and-social-credit-system-actually-work-explained-by-jeremy-daum/ from 2022, and it seems at the time there were pilot projects to do something like a real social credit score system.

What it really is, is sort of a regulatory credit check system. It’s primarily aimed at businesses, not at individuals. And social credit is pretty routinely defined as a measure of people’s compliance with laws and legal obligations. So, it’s not a holistic measure of all your behavior. It’s not an algorithmic formulation based on what you did online, what you bought, who your friends are, what you said, what you posted about. It measures whether or not you’ve received administrative punishments, criminal punishments, whether you’ve applied for permits, or a registered a business, things like this.

So, most of the information going into it is what they call public credit information, which is information created or collected by the government in the course of its normal business. So that’s to say that the creation of the idea of the Social Credit System didn’t involve collecting much more information.

What it did involve was sharing information between regulatory agencies, and they’re now making it so that if you violated say a food safety law… In the past, you might… The food safety regulators would know that that had happened, but it’s now available for the public to see in most cases. And also, other regulatory agencies will see this.

What I strongly disagree with though is the dramatized and biased view your video approaches the topic with. Analyzing these things should be sober, not like that. I couldn't watch past the first few seconds. "Do we have no privacy? (in response to filming themselves for a year) We don't have any anyway (to point out the evil state monitoring their every move)"

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Watch the documentary. Each individual gets a score, and this score changes depending on your behaviour and the everyday decision you make - what you drink you buy, what food you eat. Whatever the party deems as desired or undesired behaviour, the score is increased or decreased.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I will probably do that. But do you realize that the first app she opens isn't from the state? It's sesame credit from alibaba/alipay. It's a private bonus credit thing/loyalty program from a private company. It has nothing to do with the state. If you go on a shopping spree in their apps then your credit rises and you may get a few gifts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhima_Credit

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude, each single app she has on her phone is from a private company. The state doesn't even have an app, and it doesn't need one.

To paraphrase what the documentary says: The private companies are creating the apps, but the Chinese party-state makes the recipes. And the state has access to every single piece of information. The state decides what happens with the data, and what 'features' are added. The party gets what it wants.

That's what the documentary explains explicitly.

It's an Orwellian nightmare.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You just had a conversation with an account that specializes in western propaganda against China and Russia, the two big adversaries of the USA.

@Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org as well as several other accounts do exactly that, by only posting explicitly anti-China and anti-Russia articles, often from the most obscure sources. Daily.

As with this post, it‘s US propaganda and financed by the CIA run Voice of Tibet as outlined here.

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[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It depends how people are asked imo. Most such surveys are done on Chinese social media or in similar surveys where individual answers can be tracked. According to polls done in China, the vast majority of citizens also agree that China is a good democracy and that they trust their government.

But what else would people say? Openly disagreeing with the government can put you in big trouble in China. It's basically a choice between being supportive of what the government does or risking to simply disappear.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

This is just straight up lying. Anonymous polls conducted by Western sources have found the same thing.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago

the UK and Australian Governments imprison climate change protestors for years...

it's intrinsic in all governments to be authoritarian, they own the monopoly on violence

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, this article certainly doesn't prove anything. It's 100% baseless speculation.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What "proof" would you believe?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (19 children)

Well, to start with, something more credible than "sources indicate" lmao. Y'all really just believe anything bad about China no matter how flimsy it is.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

independent radio station

Voice of Tibet

It receives funds from the United States National Endowment for Democracy

Yeah no, they're just making shit up lmao.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Literally the only source for this is from known CIA fronts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Tibet_%28Norway%29?wprov=sfla1

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Today they kill Tibetan Language, tomorrow they'll kill Cantonese Language (I mean they are already trying to kill it right now), My Native Language

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Have you met anyone from China who doesn't speak their native language in addition to mando?

The Chinese I asked about it seemed more concerned they could hardly understand the accent in other areas, which IDK whether to interpret as they didn't care an integral part of their cultures was eroding or they were saying these people barely speak mandarin, obv they aren't losing their native language.

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hello. I'm noticing at least 3 people don't like your opinion. Does that mean your written and spoken words are irrelevant and it's alright to erase them?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Some people like jerking off to the idea that China is full of mustache-twirling villains who do endless evil for absolutely no reason. Look at OP's post history for example, averaging >10 anti-china posts per day for over a year. If you don't want anyone's logic or experience having lived in China to potentially get in the way of that, you're best off blocking me.

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China's nationalistic tendencies and unification policies are its official stance. Its own government has admitted that some officials are overzealous in their pursuit for Han culture dominance. And they do little, if anything at all to curb these abuses, officially.

Ignorance is not logic. It's bias.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China’s nationalistic tendencies and unification policies are its official stance. Its own government has admitted that some officials are overzealous in their pursuit for Han culture dominance

True, and I've noticed some underlying views in my conversations with Chinese people, but I'm still 99% sure this is made up given the source.

And they do little, if anything at all to curb these abuses, officially.

They have officially put minority rights into their constitution and leave Tibet significant autonomy. I've never been to Tibet so I can't speak towards the specifics of how it's implemented, but I doubt anyone here can either.

Ignorance is not logic. It’s bias.

The comment I'm getting downvoted for is asking the only other person in this thread with direct experience to share their relevant experience. Who exactly are you calling ignorant, the person who has lived in China or the people whom uncritically accept hostile evidence?

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm calling ignorant those who ignore or downplay the harm caused due to whatever reasons, regardless of affiliation. Doesn't matter who, doesn't matter why, those who suffer unjustly deserve their recognition.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it downplaying or ignoring harm to ask the other person who has experience "Hey does this match what you've observed? Can you help me contextualize my observations?"

[–] lath@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago

Not if you both understand each other's position and work together honestly to expose the reality of the situation. Both helping victims who are hidden and uncovering when victims don't exist help those who need it. The prerequisite is doing this to defend the victims, not the governments in charge of them. The governments can protect themselves, they don't need our help at all.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Cantonese is more expressive than Mandarin.

In Mandarin, the ‘Shīshì shí shī shǐ’ poem is incomprehensible when read aloud, since only four syllables cover all the words of the poem. The poem is somewhat more comprehensible when read in other varieties such as Cantonese, in which it has 18 different syllables accounting for tone differences, or Hokkien, in which it has 15 different syllables.

So Mandarin is the worst branch of the Chinese languages to simp for.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think having more distinct sounds makes a language more expressive.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mandarin has to use two syllabel words.

Cantonese often times can use one syllabel words due to it having more unique combination of initials+finals + more tones

Example:

Chair: 櫈 vs 椅子
Clothes: 衫 vs 衣服
Shoes: 鞋 vs 鞋子
Table: 枱 vs 桌子
Ruler: 尺 vs 尺子

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Any linguist would dismiss this. The same argument could be made for say Catalan vs Castilian, or French vs Italian, but fewer syllables don’t equate to more expressiveness.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps ‘economic’ is the correct word. More expressive per unit of speech.

Toki pona is interesting conceptually, but in practice I wouldn't want to have to resort to eight-word compounds all the time.

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[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

You're right, I don't like obvious propaganda that has nothing to back it up beyond, "sources believe."

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A lot of people don’t like fake news.

But this is par for the course from Hotznplotzn and his ~~sockpuppets~~ friends.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

i'd be pretty stoked to see tibetan theocrats rekt.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That would be a pretty shocking deviation from the current policy where over 90% of students in Tibet receive a bilingual education in primary and middle school, with Tibetan being the principle language.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

thanks china, for freeing tibet :D

[–] butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Tankies will look you dead in the eyes and tell you this isn't colonialism. 

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sources indicate that the primary reason for his detention was his efforts to teach the Tibetan language to more than 300 local children during school holidays. The classes were reportedly organized for young students from nearby communities who wished to learn Tibetan reading and writing. Chinese authorities are believed to have deemed these voluntary language lessons illegal.

Lmao y'all are incapable of critical thought.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tankietard being tankietarded.

Go die on the front lines for your leader, cunt.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Go die on the front lines for your leader

I would, but China isn't fighting any wars right now, and hasn't ever been in my lifetime.

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[–] Chough@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's sad that the government is trying to destroy the aspects of Tibet that make it unique.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

It is called cultural genocide

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