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HEY HEY HEY, don’t get me wrong now but I’m seeing dozens of Discord-like apps over the past year and can’t understand one thing about them, which is WE ALREADY HAVE THE CHAT PART SINCE FUCKING 1988, it’s called IRC, it’s lightweight, not bloated, works everywhere, extendible and still maintained.
Discord (and Slack) are proprietary IRC forks themselves and adds almost NOTHING to that equation.
It’s the voice/video call part that Discord solved an none of these forks attempting to tackle that part.
Stoat and Fluxer already have voice/video solved just like Discord.
That’s pretty nice of them, really. How many concurrent users can they handle?
I wouldn't call it a "solved" problem... I don't use Fluxer but from what I read in online discussions it's something that's currently a pain point since they're currently trying to overhaul the system
i also use irc but it doesn't work for normies. there's no integrated persistant chat log, image/file upload, voice chats, replies(linking to specific message), message editing, emoji reactions, etc...
~~You must have never tried irc in conjunction with Convos or The Lounge~~
Edit: Fluxer is a usable alternative https://fluxer.app/
i haven't seen Convos before, thanks for sharing.
i've seen The Lounge before while looking for a discord alternative sometime ago, but i skipped it because there doesn't seem to be replies, editing, reactions, file/image sharing. i have to admit i only tried their Demo link, perhaps libera just doesn't support those IRCv3 features?
haha yeah editing still isn’t a thing in irc but image upload, replies and voice/video (convos uses jitsi) are, totally understandable if those are roadblocks.
Libera is probably your best best for IRCv3 so yeah there is a reason the industry moved to xmpp (LoL Facebook Nintendo Zoom).
You have been using software stuck in the last century I'm afraid. IRCv3 solves all of this with the clear exception of voice/video chats. Use ergo server, the lounge or gamja as a web frontend. Motd on android feels like a current messenger (but it's partly made with ai unfortunately). irc really is a credible possibility today
The problem is that voice&video and spaces/servers are necessary for how most people use these sorts of chat apps nowadays
Yes absolutely. Which means that irc is a good platform to build on.
i see, that's awesome. will try setting it up later.
do you know if push notifications work in the mobile app?
I'm not a believer of push notifications, so I leave motd open in the background, with maybe a few hundreds messages a day and it consumes 1% of my battery. I know it's not an answer, sorry 😅
i see. i also don't use push notifications, but to have my discord using friends move over i need to reach feature parity.
I get that, the feature here is realtime messages and notifications, which irc and correct apps provide, not push notification itself.
I think the goal here is to get the general population off Discord and moved into a more open platform.
IRC is great but I can't see the average user using it unfortunately. Every platform has its own goal, but the ultimate community goal is whatever pushes us to an open social space is a net positive imo!
They add a TON of stuff, for example payments, age control, marketing and a lot of other nonsense
irc sucks
I am interessed in the granular permission system and integrations